Stormy Dreams

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(Though I do not normally put up columns dealing with dreams, there are some people who, by the consistent quality of their work and faith and the depth of their study and prayer over an extended period of time, I will put up just about anything they submit – including when it takes a dramatically different perspective than I do. Among these are Janet Klasson, better known as Pelianito, who is our guest columnist today; Mark Mallett, Anthony Mullen, Dan Lynch, Daniel O’Connor, Glenn Dallaire, the French theologian Peter B., and regular readers EllenChris and TC. There are others, but these have built such an established, sober credibility with me that I am pleased to have them appear here and with a very wide latitude for what they say. – CJ)

By Pelianito

At times I have dreams that I feel are significant. Usually I post them to my own blog but last night’s dreams were definitely more about Charlie and the Storm, so I thought I’d post them to a guest column. I learned a long time ago that the main interpretation of any of my significant dreams is that they are a call to prayer for whatever I feel the dream is about. With that in mind I will share the few brief but clear dreams I had last night.

First of all I dreamed of Charlie. He was standing next to a yardstick. I felt in the dream the yardstick represented the “full measure” of suffering he would undergo very shorty in the Storm. I ask you to stop reading right now and pray the Prayer of Miraculous Trust for Charlie and his family, that they will be given strength and every grace they need to endure all that must be endured to fulfill the plan of God. Charlie, I entrusted your cause to Sts. Honoratus and Emmeram. I feel the obscure saints are just waiting to be asked, and very eager to help. These two were my “patron saints of the year” some time ago, and now are my special friends. (See http://yourpatronsaint.blogspot.ca/)

The second dream was equally brief. It was a cherry tree infested with tent caterpillars. I feel this is a dream to pray for the food supply,eastern-tent-caterpillars-on-black-cherry-r81 and to ask God to mitigate the punishment due to sin that would affect the food supply in the Storm.

In the third dream I saw a financial balance sheet. Most of the numbers had been replaced by asterisks. I felt this was a call to pray for the financial crisis that is coming, that again, the effects of it would be mitigated to a degree by the mercy of God, and that people will not lose hope, but will make it through the Storm to the Era of Peace.

The Storm is coming, but I believe these dreams are an indication that we can still pray that the effects of the Storm will be somehow mitigated through our petitions to the Divine Mercy. If you have not prayed the Hours of the Passion as given to Luisa Piccarreta, please make an effort to do so as there are promises associated with it, unique blessings for the town or city where it is prayed. May God grant us every strength and grace we need to weather the Storm.

I will close with Jesus’ own prayer for Simon from Luke 22: 31-32:  ‘Simon, Simon, listen! Satan has demanded to sift all of you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your own faith may not fail; and you, when once you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.’

(Certainly, the sufferings of these times are as nothing compared to the joy we shall have if we endure. I get a lot of people in deep agony over troubled family relationships. I respond to them with equanimity and, I hope, sound counsel. I don’t speak much of it, but I have three family situations that are deeply sorrowful and agonizing. I trust God to set things right in His time – and I don’t believe I will move that time forward by a moment by neglecting the work I have. In each of the three cases, I have little or no contact. I do not do this out of spite, but so as not to forget who they are at their best and to avoid risking damaging my love for them. I feel the best thing I can do for one who has determined to set their face against the family is to protect my love for them, pray for them, and be open to their return in a properly ordered fashion. That does NOT mean they have to believe as I do, but only that  they have to be genuinely caring and sharing in family life without constantly trying to impose anti-Christian values and ideologies on others. I bring this up because there has been an unusual uptick of such things in my mail…and I think it may help you to remember that even here, you must first trust and, second, do not fail to take the little steps your work entails. Do not let your grief seduce you from your duty (See 2 Samuel 19:1-8) – CJ)

About charliej373

Charlie Johnston is a former newspaper editor, radio talk show host and political consultant. From Feb. 11, 2011 to Aug. 21, 2012, he walked 3,200 miles across the country, sleeping in the woods, meeting people and praying as he went. He has received prophetic visitation all his life, which he has vetted through a trio of priests over the last 20 years, and now speaks publicly about on this site. Yet he emphasizes that we find God most surely through the ordinary, doing the little things we should with faith and fidelity. Hence the name, The Next Right Step. The visitations inform his work, but are not the focus of it. He lives in the Archdiocese of Denver in the United States.
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233 Responses to Stormy Dreams

  1. Sarah says:

    I have asked John Fisher, Bishop and Martyr, to help Charlie in the times to come.

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  2. Dave says:

    Since this is about things related to The Storm, I had an experience this past weekend that spoke directly to it.
    I have a large garden out in a field near my home. The rabbit population had recently expanded and for the first time I have to deal with this threat. My solution was to buy poultry netting and put it around the bottom of the 200 foot perimeter fence I have in place for the deer. The recent rains have made the mosquito population explode in the past few days, so I knew I had to deal with them in the process. Seeing evidence of feeding already in progress, I had to act and get it done as soon as possible. With the heat and mosquitoes, I was dreading it.I decided to just spray down with Deep Woods Off and get it over with.

    As I began the work, the attack of mosquitoes was the worst I have ever endured, and I have lived on my wooded property for 27 years. The clouds came out of the tall grass with a deafening buzz and so thick I had to work with my mouth closed so I didn’t breathe them in. I could soak myself with spray and immediately, they would swarm me. I’ve never had that spray fail so miserably. Every foot of progress was excruciating, and it took me more than twice as long as I had envisioned. When I finished, I was soaked from sweat and Deep Woods Off and very tired.

    I went to take a shower and was still stunned by the ferocity of the attack. During the shower I said to God, ” I simply feel like I have just been punished”. Very quickly, I felt the answer. I felt Him or my angel say, “When you were preparing for the work, you had decided you knew how it was going to go. You thought you had the full vision of what was going to happen and how bad the worst could be. This is an example of how you must drop all notions that you can predict what is coming.”

    I immediately thought of Charlies words to the effect that every one of us will be surprised and tested in the extreme. I understood those words of warning with my head, but not my heart with any scale of perspective. This really put it home for me. The Storm is going to be much harder than any of us can predict or plan, and the ONLY way is going to be acknowledge God, take the next right step, and be a sign of hope to those around you. I feel like for a bit, I had a shred of understanding of the magnitude of what Charlie is trying to tell us.

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    • Mack says:

      Wow, Dave, that’s amazing and a great lesson. I don’t have any real idea of how things will go and my imaginations are probably far off the mark.
      My own experience this weekend was that I had to fast two days without solid food to prepare for a medical test. I don’t fast outside of Lent, and even then we can have some food. But in doing it, after a little while hunger pangs went away and I realized I can live without food for a while, as long as I can drink some liquids. I thought that perhaps God was reminding me that during the Storm we may have to go without food, or at least it will be greatly reduced. But I also got the message that God will give us the grace to handle it. After the fast I actually felt much better, like a cleansing.

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    • DanSouthChicago says:

      Thank you for the observations and the warnings. The times ahead will be more daunting than I can understand now. Your writing helps me understand a little better that Trust-Do-Love is more than a slogan. God bless.

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    • Mick says:

      Dave… Yikes! Thanks for the reality check. May God bless, and Mary keep, all of us.

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    • mmbev says:

      I am so glad you included this comment! I am reading again, and your comment set off a sentence in my head. My trial is different because it does not include family, and I would be surprised if I am the only one who gets another tact. It depends on our lives, but God isn’t going to leave us out.

      THIS IS A TEST. THIS IS A TEST. This morning there it was as clear as day. I mentioned that every room in my house needs major clean up as well as outside. Did I mention the two sheds? That’s a trial. I have to keep at it until it’s done, without flinching, whining, or stopping. When I first became aware, knowing my limitations, I felt overwhelming panic. This is a piece of cake compared to what I will have to do during the major ferocity of the Storm. At least knowing makes the panic I was feeling subside.

      Bet this is but one test.

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    • torilen says:

      Thanks, Dave. That’s a reminder I really need. After waiting & trying to prepare for the storm for so long, I find myself looking forward to it as though it will be better than dealing with the filth & immorality that has taken over our culture, I forget, or just can’t picture, how trying the Storm itself is going to be.

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    • connie says:

      Dave, I am really gratefull that u shared your experience. It is so easy to orget what is coming and I am wont to lull myself into thinking we will go on like this for a long time. You reminded me I must not put off tomorrow what I shoud do today, to increase my prayer time, and to set my face like flint when hard things come.

      The one grace I saw in your story was the population explosion of rabbits. That willbe a blessing as food upon the table:)

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  3. mmbev says:

    I am not familiar with the Hours of the Passion you mentioned above by Lucia Piccarreta. Is there a link you can put up that will give us this information?

    Thank you for your column. I have already prayed as you suggested and will keep the financial and economic situation in prayer as we move ahead. What is wonderful and incredible is how God is enlightening us through those who comment here. The guest columns may help Charlie, but they must have been intended because they bless us and keep our feet following His will.

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    • mmbev, here is a pdf of the Hours of the Passion. http://divinewill.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Hours_Book_Rev-12_11_10-Summer_2009_8.5-x-11_format-Rev-5_4_13use.pdf The promises are listed as well. You do not have to pray them in a 24 hour period, but can pray them over 24 days, one “hour” per day.

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      • Mick says:

        Janet, thanks for this link. And I have a question: Is one supposed to treat each of these “hours” kind of like a Holy Hour? I mean, are we supposed to spend a full hour in prayer and meditation on each of these “hours”? I would really like to try to do these over the course of the next month, and perhaps try to convince my eldest son to join me. But I’m not sure how we’d manage to spend a full hour each day, on top of the other obligations and responsibilities that we have. Any advice or suggestions? Thanks in advance. 🙂

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        • EllenChris says:

          Dear Mick: Some of the “hours” are longer or shorter than others. They were compiled from Luisa’s writings by St. Annibale DiFranica. They are designed to be simply read in a prayerful kind of way. Probably none of them would take a full hour to read, depending on your speed — usually more like 15 or 20 minutes, You can read them in front of the Blessed Sacrament, or just at home or on a bus or any way you wish. The *essential* thing, as I understand it, is simply to READ them. For Luisa the deeper spiritual significance of each event was more the focus than just the physical circumstances. A priest I came across years ago would say, “Just read, read, read!” Apparently the rest will follow. Luisa was very simple, in the best sense of the term. Making it too complicated only gets in the way.

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        • Mick, one could do it that way, but I have not understood it to be the intent. When Luisa did it, she prayed one per hour for 24 hours, and if you do it that way, it would take a miracle to be able to stay awake that long. No, just pray with reverence. I have even heard of a group getting organized to each cover one hour (or more) in a 24 hour period. So if you had 6 people you could each take 4 of the hours. However, there is so much to be gained in reading all the material yourself that I would say the first time you do it, take the 24 days and read it all.

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          • EllenChris says:

            Janet, you said — “one could do it that way, but I have not understood it to be the intent.”

            I had said: “They are designed to be simply read in a prayerful kind of way.” So I think that actually you and I were saying exactly the same thing. “Reading in a prayerful way” is pretty much the definition of meditating. One can certainly meditate on a bus, and perhaps that might leaven the atmosphere on the bus. Jesus cloistered Luisa for His own holy purpose. The rest of us have to try to keep him company on the buses we ride. 🙂

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          • EllenChris I was replying directly to MIck. I think we hit send at the same time and were saying the same thing. Sorry to confuse you!

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        • The intent is really to keep Christ company in the 24 hours of his passion. That is where the term “hours” comes from.

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          • Mick says:

            thanks, Janet, for replying to my numerous questions. 🙂

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          • mmbev says:

            Thank you all three! I’m delighted to get the link! (I know, learn how to do this yourself! But she said, excusing herself, I’m that really dumb sheep over there at the back, looking out the small hole in the fence!)

            Sooo, I will be tied to the computer as I do this, since my printer is in Vancouver and won’t be home to attached himself to my computer for at least another week. Easily done, though, and I am looking forward to beginning. I haven’t read anything written by her. I also made note of Father Robert Young’s audio and will go there as well.

            I think I have surfaced enough after being mildly sub-human for the last week. (Listen, everyone should try it for at least one week. Makes you very grateful when you resurface.)

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      • connie says:

        thanks, Janet. I was wondering how I ould do this myself and I was thinking I would need to find some willing partners to help take some of these hours so that together we could pray the 24 hours but I certainlt like your idea better!

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    • Fran says:

      The Hours of the Passion was my first introduction to Luisa Piccarreta’s writings, MMBev, and they are very powerful meditations and prayers.

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  4. Bob says:

    As for family members I have a distant relative who the story goes and i believe it has ruined her life and joy by holding onto resentment from a another family member, this person is an in law but still family, from a nasty divorce. And when I offered a prayer today after hearing the readings of forgiving our enemies, I thought of her. And my work for this person now is to pray, as I am not in direct contact.

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    • Barbara Dore says:

      I have three sister in laws and it is still difficult to rapport with them. my children noticed that. They are my relatives due to my marriage to my husband but I cannot see them as my friends. They are polite and civil towards me, but I still cannot see them as friends. It is very hard for me. I have to be patient with them.

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      • connie says:

        It is very hard to be friendly and have warm,loving, sentiments towards some people who have betrayed us or hurt us in some way, Barbara. I think sometimes that people who naturally have big hearts like I think you do by all the prayers you are always offering on behalf of others, I think it is easy to feel deeply a hurt by someone.

        I have a hard time with some people in my family and some neighbors because I think to myself, how could they have done something like that to me or to someone I care for – I would never do something like that! I have had to remind myself( very very often at times!) that everyone is different, coming from a different background with different experiences or have been wounded in a way I may not know of or maybe not been blessed by having loving examples in their lives. So that when I begin to think about them being wounded or not whole in a way then I begin to have compassion on them. I may not be able to be around them long because of a sort of toxic environment that they create, but I am able to sincerely offer up what sufferings they have caused me back to them for the sake of their souls and their healing body, mind, and soul. It helps me also to picture them in my mind and say “Oh Blood and Water which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I Trust in You”. Jesus told St. Faustina(who suffered from unkindness towards her by some of the other nuns at times) Jesus said to her, ” The prayer most pleasing to Me is the prayer of conversion. Know, My Daughter, that this prayer is always heard and answered.” (V 1397). Call upon on My Mercy on behalf of
        sinners; I desire their salvation. When you say this prayer, with a contrite heart and with faith on behalf of some sinner, I will give that soul the grace of conversion. This is the prayer:(1,186) “Oh Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You.” Diary of St. Faustina(1187)

        This is a consolation to me because then I can picture in my mind how good it might be if
        a person who has caused me grief would change for good then we may have a very good relationship. My own heart is healed a little in the process.

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  5. Lily says:

    Thank You dear Charlie for sharing this with us! There is such a storm in my personal family at this this time however keeping connected with your writings and dear Pelianito and marks etc gives us all such strength and to continue to look up and persevere. Not to look at the waves from the storm but to look at His Heart!
    Thank you again

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  6. Jennifer says:

    Great story Dave. Humility and trust. Thanks Charlie for sharing about the attacks of the enemy thru loved ones. It seems either the enemy targets them which causes us to suffer or turns them against us or both. This has been the main way he has tried to keep me from God’s Will. I think your strategy is a sound one. By the way, I am going to a spirital warfare workshop tomorrow which will be conducted by Msgr. Essef. Please pray for all of the attendees.

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    • charliej373 says:

      Prayers going up for all who attend – and for Msgr. Essef, Jennifer.

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    • Anne says:

      Jennifer ……. How blessed you are to go!
      My friend and I think he is a huge gift to humanity.

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      • Jennifer says:

        Yes, Anne it’s true. My dioscese is amazing. It’s because of the Institute for Priestley Formation aka The IPF. Msgr. Essef is involved. Plus we have the cause for canonization for Fr. Flannagan at boystown moving forward. We also have a true father and shepard in Archbishop Lucas. Omaha is truely blessed. Charlie, let me know if you plan to be near this area.

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  7. Mary Anne says:

    Despite what our physical eyes will soon be seeing, we must not despair nor become despondent, but push on with our eyes of faith. We have the oil in our lamps…and we have been made ready. Charlie, I so see St. Teresa of Avila as my big sister. She is the one I asked to pray for you and your family.

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  8. Barbara Dore says:

    what is the hours of passion? please explain if possible.

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    • The Hours of the Passion were given by Jesus to Luisa Piccarreta. It is best to go to the link I provided under mmbev’s comment above and read the promises as listed on the document. This document has ecclesial approval as listed at the beginning.

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  9. Barbara Dore says:

    St Joseph of the dreams, protect us from the false dreams and help us to understand the genuine dreams which comes from God. amen

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  10. donna says:

    I have prayed the prayer of Miraculous Trust for Charlie and his family and have asked St Joseph to intercede on their behalf.

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  11. Kathleen Vacheresse says:

    I am on my way to evening Mass. Charlie I want to thank you again for sharing the Miraculous Trust rayer
    I pray it often. You are under the protection of Our Lady. And Our Lord. To acomplish your mission. And I feel a part of this family of TDL.May God bless and protect each and everyone of us through this Storm.

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  12. the phoenix says:

    The patron saint I chose for Charlie in the Prayer of Miraculous Trust is Abraham.

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  13. NancyA says:

    I believe I have already prayed the Prayer of Miraculous Trust for Charlie, but I made it very specific to these intentions, and asked the intercession of St. John Paul II. God bless you all…

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    • connie says:

      Me too, Nancy, prayed The Prayer of Miracuous Trust again for Charlie and his family, I also added others who have very special missions, for their strength and perserverence. I asked for St. Pio’s intercession because he has had much experience with severe trials and the evil one’s attacks, and then I asked St. John Vianney because he also had the satan attacking him regularly!

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  14. Marita says:

    Thank you Janet and Charlie for sharing the dreams with us. Today I was despairing about my mother’s mental health, and I was looking out at the beautiful tree’s and gorgeous blue sky, which normally make me feel wonderful, but all I could feel is despair. Then a Priest friend of mine called to schedule a time to come over and hear my mom’s confession, and I poured my sorrowful spirit out on to him and he prayed a wonderful little prayer for us. I immediately felt the sorrow and despair lift, and when I shared the prayer with my mom, who is also despairing, her spirits lifted right away as well. God knew we needed an intervention right then, and He had his dear Priest son be His messenger!
    Also, when I was looking out on that beautiful scenery and feeling nothing but despair, I was thinking of what Charlie has stated before, that during the Storm, all of us at one point or another are going to despair. I was wondering if God was giving me a sampling of that awful time when I will despair, but just then He intervened and sent solace.

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    • Petra says:

      Hang in there Marita. Know I pray for you and your mom every day. I know it is very tough to be the 24/7 caregiver. I know how tiring it is, and how despair is such a temptation. But find ways to refresh yourself. Always hope in the Lord, that He will bring joy. Pray to accept all the sufferings you see happening to your mom, and those you suffer watching them happen. Pray He take them away, but that His will be done. It’s easier if you don’t dwell on the sufferings, but on the gift you are receiving of being able to be with your mom in her infirmity. You know there’s only one way this will end, so savor being with her now.

      I was a caretaker for my mom for 15 1/2 years. I got in a habit of once in a while laying down with her for a little while at night after I put her to bed. The hospital bed was very narrow, but I would spoon with her as she laid on her side, and I’m pretty sure she was as comforted by it as I was. Sometimes (even though she had dementia) we would talk like we did when I was just a girl, just about nothing really, just musing about things. Now that she has passed, those memories comfort me.

      We didn’t always get along. During my young adult years our relationship was very rocky, and almost shattered. Now I see in those days that she understood I was being tempted away from God, and we fought because I wanted the world, and she wanted me to stay committed to God. It is the same agony many parents who write here relate about their own children falling away and following the world. She must have prayed mightily to Our Lady for me, because finally in my late 20’s I grew up a bit and decided I didn’t want the world, and whatever gripes I had with her were irrelevant, and I needed to be a better daughter. I decided whatever she had done, she had done out of love, and with a desire for my good, even if I didn’t agree or like it. But our conflict wasn’t because she was wrong. It was because I had been wrong, and she wanted to save me. I also understood she was human, and sometimes made mistakes with regards to me, and I could let all that go. And so I did.

      So, Marita, savor your good mother. She is a great gift to you.

      I’m so glad Our Lord inspired His priest son to call you. I see how closely He holds you in His hand, and I praise Him for the beautiful work He is creating with you and your mom. I am convinced the sufferings of the elderly and their caretakers, if offered up, bring great graces to their families and to the world. Souls are saved by this. God bless you and your mom, Marita. I’ll keep praying for you.

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      • Marita says:

        As always Petra, your words are comforting and you are certainly a blessing for us! My mom is a prayer warrior, she prays constantly now, mostly for God to take her, but also for the salvation of the rest of her children who are far away from God and the Church.
        I know we are in a grace filled time, and we I need to look at the situation and my mom as a great gift, but I struggle. This morning I was dressing her, and all I could think about was how I was hungry and to get this over with. I wasn’t very patient, but I knew the Lord is going to give me lots more chances to practice that patience and love. You are in my prayers Petra, and I’m going to tell mom about you so she can pray for you now too. God bless you!

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        • Petra says:

          Marita: I sure understand your struggle. I struggled too. And sometimes I wasn’t too patient either. I often wondered why I didn’t feel much joy in any of the work. I wondered why I was so discontented. Days seemed long and hard and mostly very boring, filled with lots of physical work and not too many uplifting moments. I guess Our Lord was spot on when he said the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
          Thank you for your prayers and for your mom’s prayers. I know you two are prayer powerhouses! I appreciate your prayers so very much. I am with you (and all caretakers here) in spirit, and pray for you all so that you might be strengthened and consoled in your work. God bless you everyday, and send angels to assist both you and your mom.

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  15. EllenChris says:

    Thank you very much, Janet, for sharing this.

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    • Anne says:

      Last night I re read an entry by you ellenchris ……March 5 th 2015……regarding the storm. I want to thank you because it clicked in so strongly ……. The storm is the storm of the human will……one hour before I read it a person I know received some words and shared…… Basically about human will and how The Lord is leading us to Divine Will away from our undisciplined human will.And just before reading your comment I cried out to The Lord to be merciful to all………Then I read your comment which brought it all together…. God is allowing us to experience the full force of our human will, bring us to our knees so we are teachable!
      I recognise this because it is. The same with dealing with difficult kids.
      So I know call it the storm of the human will.

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      • LittleLight says:

        “The storm is the storm of the human will…” and “The same with dealing with difficult kids.”

        Yes! Homeschooling all these years has made this so apparent to me. When I think about how dire our physical and financial preparedness is, I hear God tell me, and I believe, that none of that matters if our hearts are not in order. If we have humility, hope, obedience, courage, faith, selflessness, etc., we can move mountains. We can work together and find innovative solutions, guided by and responding to God’s grace. But when we are broken by sin and vice, none of this can happen.

        What I have been laboring at, is to show by my example to my children, the discipline and all that stuff listed above that is desperately needed. What scares me is that my best effort is completely insufficient. I see clearly only God can work in hearts to bring about the good virtues needed to survive. In a weird way this is comforting.

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      • EllenChris says:

        Thanks, Anne — I believe you are right. It is very common in people’s spiritual lives for our Good Lord to allow us to come to the end of ourselves so that He can become everything for us. When we give up on relying upon our own efforts to save ourselves by our own feeble power, that is when His Grace is best able to reach us and transform us. I believe that the time after the storm will, indeed, be an “Era of Peace” beyond our expectations. Not an instantanteous “New Eden” but a flowering of a new holiness in which we are able to come into harmony with God’s holy Will in a greater way because of our surrender to Him.

        Somewhere in her writings Luisa tells us that our Lord communicated to her that, . . . Even while they are plotting the worst atrocities, I am preparing the greatest gifts and joys of My Will — this is rendered in my own words, but conveys the quote pretty closely.

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        • charliej373 says:

          I like that, Ellen…”flowering of a new holiness.” It has already begun…and I am so privileged to be able to visit with the firstfruits of that flowering. Oh, how I think God He has allowed me to witness all you magnificent people…rising not like an army, but with the quiet determination of a sapling pressing through concrete to make its stand.

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        • Colleen DeRose says:

          EC, it struck me as I began to read the new encyclical that it speaks to our great need to reestablish balance in every area of creation. It points to or seems to foreshadow the Era of Peace spoken about by Mallett and others.

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      • Fran says:

        I think you are so right Anne!

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      • EllenChris says:

        So true, Anne. I always hope that something I have written will be of help.

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  16. Thank you Pelianito for sharing your dreams. We are praying the Hours of the Passion by the servant of God Luisa Piccarreta and St. Hanibale di Francia here in Tasmania. It seems different sources are predicting some kind of economic problems in September or October of this year and the letter from Father Gruner about Father Amorth’s comments about October of this year were read at our Divine Will meeting last week. Please pray for us as we are discerning an important decision in the next few days.

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  17. mvislander says:

    It seems as though the Satan is attacking the family on all fronts. In the social order and in all of our individual lives. It seems so many here and in my sphere of friends and co-workers family strife is so evident. My family has been struggling with my mother’s terrible affliction of lewy bodies dementia for the past eight years. An older brother who is unmarried and was already living with my mom volunteered to take care of her in the home she has lived in since the Eisenhower administration. Our four other siblings thought she would be better off in a nursing home. With the assistance of home health aides she has been lovingly and with dignity cared for in her own home. It has fractured our family and destroyed our relationships. I have prayed long and hard to our Blessed Mother and Saint Padre Pio for assistance. Along with my wife and two children we made a pilgrimage to Fatima which has been close to my heart since the nuns taught us about it in grammar school. The family riff is still there but I feel that my Faith has increased exponentially during this struggle. Although it has somewhat hindered my physical preparation for the storm I do believe God has been working more on my spiritual preparation. Through all the stress and upset I have been able to get outside of myself and become truly grateful for the blessings that I do have in my life. My old life does not seem as important to me as I now strive to be the change that I want to see in the world. Don’t mean to sound maudlin but I have difficulty articulating the stuff in my head. My mom who does not seem to be there sometimes, once, came out of the fog and said “persevere”. I think that is all we can do right now. TDL and take the next right step.

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    • Anne says:

      MVP…… I smiled at your mum and the word popping out. Persevere!
      My mum had dementia for ten years …… More goes on inside than we know!
      See her as often as you can!

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    • Petra says:

      mvislander: I relate to your struggle. My mother was struck with a stroke that affected her cognition and left her unable to walk or care for herself. She could not even move the wheelchair. When she was ready to leave rehab she could barely swallow. When Medicare coverage ended and we had to decide what would happen next, of course she wanted to come home. Three of my siblings were all for a nursing home. One brother and myself committed to take care of her in her home. So the two of us took care of her in her home for 15 and a half years. Seven of those years my dad was also alive and ailing, though not needing as much care as my mom.

      Our three siblings snubbed us, and almost totally abandoned my mom and dad, calling only on holidays for a few minutes, and maybe visiting once a year for an hour or so. Since they didn’t agree with the decision, they felt they were not obligated to help in any way. And they didn’t.

      Caretaking was grueling, but we kept on. I know without God’s grace we would not have lasted a year doing what we did. We did our best to hide our resentment of our siblings (maybe they would say we didn’t hide it very well. :-)) and they did their best to hide their contempt of us. It hurt me that they so disagreed with in home care that they just turned their backs on us. We took no money for caring for my mom or my dad. We maintained our own homes and lived off retirement savings, which are now very depleted.

      My mom passed away this past February. The upshot of all of this is my siblings are hearing nothing but praise for what we did AS A FAMILY for her (and my dad.) Apparently those they know are voicing great admiration for them, and for our family, for our “heroic” decision. What my siblings are hearing is the approval of all those watching from the sidelines who know the right thing to do is to care for your parents in their infirmity, and even if they must be in a home, to be there so much they think you live there too.

      My siblings, since the funeral, have all tried to express their immense gratitude to my brother and I for taking (their words) “superlative care of our mother.” We are kind of left speechless, given their past behavior, but we hope God is affecting a change of hearts.

      So, all I can say is that you should continue to pray mightily for the brother who has taken on the major part of the caretaking role, pray for your siblings and the division this has caused, be there as much as you can for your caretaking sibling and look to take over some jobs he might be doing (such as yard work or maintenance in the home which and be done after work or on weekends. It’s best if you notice what needs to be done and just show up ready to do it with the tools you need.), and visit your mother as much as you can, spending time with her, and continue to have trust in God you and your brother are doing the right thing. You are.

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      • LittleLight says:

        Wow, what an uplifting testimony! God is blessing you and your family! Thank you Father.

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      • Barbara Dore says:

        Petra, Believe me, I am dead sure that God will give you many blessings because you looked after your old parents. maybe on this earth or next life, I still do not know…

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        • Barbara Dore says:

          My friend told me about her Deaf aunt in law ‘s hearing siblings never visited her. It is so sad. I read a newspaper a year ago and a lawyer from USA wrote his letter to the Editor saying that he had Deaf Aunt who was single and her hearing siblings rarely visited her ( maybe never or rarely). She was buried without the grave stone, still nameless grave of hers.

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      • mvislander says:

        Thank you, Petra. It is as if you just held up a mirror to our situation. I have always said that this would be easy if my brother was St. Mother Theresa but he is not. He has been harsh on the others and giving them the excuse to stay away, Sometimes in dark moments I feel that we made the wrong choice but I have received trusted advice that we are doing the right thing. I just try to nudge him in the right direction that he may be more forgiving. I just pray that I also take my own advice. Thank you again for taking the time to relay your story it made me feel less alone.

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    • EllenChris says:

      In regard to mvislander: A very dear friend of mine has Lewy’s body dementia, and he explained it to me. It is a cross between Parkinson’s, Lou Gherig’s and Alzheimer’s. There are painful physical spasms and paralysis as well as dementia. He has some good days and some bad ones, but it is a downhill trajectory. Desperately difficult. Prayers for you, your mom and all your family. Remember that in her soul your Mom is still the person she always was. She is in there. In eternity she will be fully restored and you can be fully reunited. Let our good Lord hold you in His arms and support you.

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  18. SteveBC says:

    Pelianito, Thank you for your dreams and for the recommendation to pray for Charlie, which I do every day, as I also pray for all who come here.

    From my reading on the financial sector, I am seeing severe pressures developing, as liquidity dries up slowly but surely. Illiquid markets can go “no-bid” and fall sharply, so the situation is getting increasingly precarious. A very good idea to pray to minimize the pain and suffering of the world in any volatile times soon to come, and I second your recommendation there.

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    • Suzie says:

      SteveBC, your comment spurred me to Google “liquidity drying up” which led me to this article from The Telegraph,
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11538509/IMF-tells-regulators-to-brace-for-global-liquidity-shock.html#disqus_thread
      Because I am not a real financial whiz, I don’t really understand much of the article. But, I found this statement interesting…The IMF said, “The report warned that distress in the global oil industry could be the trigger for the next storm.”
      Do you think the article’s author is a Next Right Step reader?

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    • Mick says:

      SteveBC, I saw this over at Zero Hedge yesterday. What do you think?

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-15/bank-america-begins-66-day-countdown-until-terrible-ghost-1937-returns

      By the way. 66, the number of trading days discussed in the article, takes us to mid-September. Hmmm….

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      • I had this sense some months back, that something is coming somewhere near the feast of the Triumph of the Cross. But I have no hard data to back it up. I have dug up an old Exaltation of the Cross novena, https://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/novena/holycross.htm, and I plan to start on it on the 1st of September and go on till the 14th of September.

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        • NancyA says:

          thank you for posting this, caitlynnegrace. I love that feast and would enjoy doing that novena!

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        • barb129 says:

          Thank you for sharing caitlynnegrace! I will be joining you in praying this novena.

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        • SteveBC says:

          CaitlynneGrace, that’s an interesting date. Jonathan Cahn has said that Elul 29, which is September 13 (Sunday) marks the end of the Shemitah year and is correlated to market crashes in 2001 and 2008, although he is careful to say it may have no direct consequence this year. However, since it is a Sunday, anything that happens that day will get reflected in markets around the world starting only late that night and of course throughout Monday, which is the Triumph of the Cross, as you point out. I think the most likely period for severe crisis probably runs from mid-September through mid-October or so.

          I am noting in my own life that what I see happening around me and what I experience in myself and my life is telling me that I need to finish my preps and begin to relax, get enough sleep, and brace. Whether that means anything or not, I am taking it seriously and feeling that it all means the Collapse is nearing.

          As you say, it definitely seems that something is coming.

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          • Steve, I am intrigued by your mention of getting enough sleep and rest. In all the prep articles I’ve been reading, I’ve never seen sleep and rest mentioned.
            But it’s like the tinkle of a silver bell for me. Of late, feeling an interior call to observe a Holy Hour of sorts, I’ve been cutting back on sleep and rest. I’m going to try to take better care of myself, while not scaling back on prayer. Thanks, Steve.

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          • SteveBC says:

            CaitlynneGrace, you’re right. I hadn’t thought of that, but sleep and rest are rarely if ever recommended. Several things have happened to me lately that have gotten me thinking the Collapse is weeks away. If I’m not rested, I will be much more likely to get depressed or to panic or whatever when it hits in full force. In a crisis sleep is hard to get. Just ask any military guy who has been in combat. So sleep is rising in my priority list. I’m delighted that you found this idea worth considering.

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          • barb129 says:

            It’s interesting that you’re being called to more rest. Our lives have been crazier than normal these last 10 days. My parents have been in the hospital with three nights spent in emergency rooms with very little sleep each night. I’ve been exhausted. Now we’ve had to put them in a rehab center and that’s been so emotional and exhausting too because they’re not happy there. I keep finding myself wondering what’s going to happen when the final crash comes. I was thinking before all this that we would be moving them to our home and taking care of them here but now I’m not sure what will happen! I keep telling myself that God has a plan and it’s better than mine and He knows what will happen.
            I do wish I could get some of that extra rest…maybe He’s putting me into training for when things get bad. 😉

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          • SteveBC says:

            Barb129, I am so sorry to hear of these difficulties. I am sending up a prayer that these things settle and everyone ends up in the right place expeditiously.

            As for sleep, I have two thoughts. First, I am not personally suffering the kind of crazinesses you and others are. I assume mine will be coming at some point, but for now, I appear to be busy but not crazy, and sleep is possible. Best get it when I can! Second, I am in a situation where my place in the Storm may be more as an advisor than a do-er, and some aspects of my role may be to witness what occurs – both of these are consistent with many lessons I have received in the course of my life. To do this, I need to be able to think, so sleep is needed. I have considered the benefit for others of having someone who is calm and can be there to be leaned on as something I may be particularly able to do. Perhaps. So my intent here is to be able to relax and be calm in the midst of whirling events. All of us will be in the midst of that, of course. I will not escape that. Yet being a calm anchor for those around me would, I think, be a benefit I could provide. We will see.

            Meanwhile, I do hope you can get some sleep soon. 🙂

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          • Mack says:

            Thanks for that novena, which is a new one for me. I’m wondering if collapse will come before or after the people’s visit. It could go either way, but if it happened while he is here, perhaps that would be God’s plan to help us during that critical time. After being anxious for a while, I now feel very calm, called to greater trust in Jesus. It feels a little eerie, though. I’ve had some thoughts like, “nothing has happened yet, so nothing probably will happen.” But that’s a bit of a temptation!

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          • Mack says:

            That should be the pope’ s visit! Kindle auto correct strikes again!

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          • barb129 says:

            Thank you, Steve, for the prayers and the thoughts! I understand what you’re saying…my husband is one of those calm ones and he has not been emotionally affected like I have been so he’s in a calmer place than I am right now. He has spent many hours this past year reading every book he has been able to get from the library about prepping and survival skills. I can’t help but think that maybe God is getting him ready to be an advisor too.

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          • Petra says:

            barb129, I’ve been thinking of you and your parents and am glad you mentioned them. I was wondering how they were doing. I remember in a post a while back you mentioning they live just down the block from you, and your situation sounded similar to my own way back when my mom got sick, so I know the position you’re in. I also know how it is to be running back and forth to the hospital, and trying to be there when the doctor shows up so you can keep on top of their condition and know what is going on with them. But I never had both parents in the hospital at once! That had to be quite a thrill! 🙂
            And even when they are on the mend at the rehab facility stage, still, getting over there to see them and making sure you are on top of their care is so important. I have found if you don’t show up every day they are more likely to be neglected and passed over and not get adequate care.
            I’ve been keeping you and your husband and your parents in my prayers and will continue to do so.
            God bless.

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          • barb129 says:

            Thank you, Petra, for your prayers and your kind words of support…they mean a lot to me.

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    • SteveBC says:

      Wow, I need to be very careful here, Suzie and Mick. I am not a great “market maven”, as they say, so take the following with many grains of salt. I will do my best. Oh, Suzie: I have no idea if Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, the author, reads this site. I doubt it. It’s just that many people see elements of what is coming, and all they can do at this point is hold their breath and hope. That means that many people sound increasing like Charlie and our fellow commenters here.

      First, monetary liquidity is not the same as market liquidity. Nowadays we have a lot of money sloshing around the world (more on that below). However, markets are built on confidence (as so many things are). If confidence in the future is low, then market participants will lower their trading activity and become far more cautious about opening new positions or holding old ones. Investors are concerned about many things right now and are no longer confident that interest rates will stay low forever, so many of the smarter ones have begun moving away from bond investments with longer horizons, which causes long-term interest rates to rise. A big question is whether the Fed will simply lose control of short-term interest rates at some point, and yes, they will if problems begin to snowball. (In fact, the idea that the Fed controls much of anything for any length of time is largely an illusion.) Just remember, if nobody is confident enough to make a bid to buy when someone offers to sell his position in (say) a long-term bond, the market could go “no bid” and suddenly nobody knows the value of their investments. The result is usually a panic selloff.

      Second, when you think of money, you should think of it in (at least) two ways.

      One is the overall money *supply*, which is what people use for whatever they are doing. We all are taught that pumping up the money supply will increase economic activity and eventually inflation, but there is a second factor that impacts its effect and that is the velocity with which money is used in the economy. Over the past several years as the Fed and many other central banks raised their money supplies (and the Fed was about the most conservative in doing this), the velocity of money in the economy has fallen sharply. Velocity could in some way be considered a nearly direct indicator of confidence (there is that confidence thing again).

      The other way to think about money is money that is used for investments of all kinds. As confidence falls and fear rises, this kind of money begins to come out of its long-term homes and seek safe haven. It goes into *stuff* or from shaky countries into countries considered safe(r). High-end real estate, eventually into gold and silver, into large-cap stocks of companies that might be able to ride out the troubles on the horizon, from emerging markets into Europe and from Europe into the US (still considered the safest country in troubled times, although that too is becoming more and more an illusion).

      So I hope you can see now that many pieces of this global puzzle are increasingly unbalanced in themselves and between themselves and all the other moving parts of our global society.

      Finally, to liquidity. Liquidity is like the oil that lubricates an auto engine. If your car’s oil gradually leaks out, then at some point your car’s engine will overheat and seize up. Something will break. If you’re going 70 MPH on the highway when that happens, that first thing that breaks can and probably will lead to lots of other internal parts breaking and perhaps even to the car jolting out of control and rolling over six times with you inside, also now with lots of broken bits.

      As all that investment money seeks boltholes to hide in or havens to stay safe in, normal market activities are reduced and liquidity in markets falls. To prevent the engine of our markets from failing catastrophically in 2008, the Fed and other central banks, as well as the Congress (remember the $700B TARP program?), fed massive amounts of extra (out-of-thin-air) funds into markets and the economy. They also cut interest rates dramatically, All of this actually saved the day. Word is that we were at most 2 days away from having our market engine completely seize up. If it had, there is no way to determine how many other dominoes would have fallen thereafter, but many more would have.

      But now the Fed is out of ammo, cannot cut rates any further if things go bad, and money is going into hiding or safe places. I hear the Fed doesn’t really know what to do now.

      So if Greece goes down, or the UK withdraws from the EU, or the Islamic State sets off a bunch of bombs throughout Europe, or some guy in a basement somehow sets off another Flash Crash, or a bank suffers a run on its deposits and has to close its doors, or a massive X-Class solar flare shuts down communications for a day, or a hacker closes ATMs throughout a European country, or Japanese interest rates spike and wreck their government’s budget, or …, or …, or, … . Well, anything could set off a crisis, causing the car’s engine to break somehow, and then all the dominoes fall as the Old System of the World dies finally and forever.

      It just takes one more grain of sand on a pile or one more snowflake on a mountain drift to start a large avalanche when the underlying system of grains or flakes is poised to move. With the size of the piles in the world today, I doubt that any agency will be able to halt events once the avalanche starts. And there are so many ways to start the collapse.

      I hope this helps, but remember that I am not an expert on this stuff, just a Monday morning quarterback with enough knowledge to be dangerous.

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      • barb129 says:

        Well you obviously understand it a whole lot more than I do! Thank you so much for explaining this to us.

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      • Jennifer says:

        Wow, Steve that was a great explaination. It all comes back to really not being able to quantify what exactly the catalyst will be or exactly when. Your humility makes this credible because the truth always leads back to trusting on the Lord. But regardless if we can give an educated explainatipn or not we can sense that the numbers don’t add up and there’s been much manipulation and tinkering by the fed. Still, one thread seems to run through everything…September/October as a timeframe to watch. I don’t know why. I keep looking for a concrete reason. I can’t find one but it’s coming from every sector and multiple sources in each sector. Aside, from Charlie, now there is the Vaticans cheif exocist pointing to this time frame. People who have warned on the economic front seem to point at this period too. Has anyone else noticed this? Does anyone have any facts as to why this up coming period could be important?

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        • charliej373 says:

          I don’t think I have actually said anything publicly about September. I don’t know any sort of inside knowledge on when the final crash will come – and anything I did say about it now would just be temporal speculation. I know some people thought it would not come while I was on the road – and whenever I get that I respond that I think it perfectly likely it will…and if it does, I will be confident that wherever I am at is where God intended me to be at that time.

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          • Jennifer says:

            Thanks, Charlie I thought you may have mentioned a time span of a certain number of months which I quickly calculated could possibly be during this September/Fall time frame. See that’s what I do! I don’t have the level of trust you have. I also have a lens which has the capacity to distort what you may or may not have said. And it appears I may have gotten you to speculate what your attitude would be about the speculation that it would not be while you are on the road. Now, my calculations which have sometimes been wrong, are that you could hit Nebraska on your way home and that could be around September right? 😉

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          • charliej373 says:

            Ha, Jennifer, if it all comes down when I’m passing through Nebraska, I’ll look you up!

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          • Jose says:

            You have not said anything about September but Mark Mallett did. Many of your readers also read his Mark Mallett’s blog, and that is probably where they got that from.

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          • SteveBC says:

            Actually, Jose, I have a memory, possibly faulty, of an April post where Charlie said the Collapse could come anywhere from one to five months thereafter. Five months would be September. Or perhaps the wording was more specific, something like, “the Collapse could happen any time now, from May to September.” Whatever it was, I remember it pointed to September as a possibility.

            September contains Elul 29, which Jonathan Cahn recently called out as important. Martin Armstrong says his main model peaks on October 1. Father Amorth apparently says that October 15 is important.

            Most of the major stock market crashes take place in September. Sometimes in October. Overall, the month of September is the month with the only average stock market return that is noticeably negative.

            So there are reasons to think September or early to middle Fall is a time of serious vulnerability. That most emphatically does not mean the Collapse will for sure happen then, only that some people are pointing to that period as one of particular risk.

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          • Jennifer says:

            Steve,
            Thanks that’s exactly what I was looking for in my origional comment. Your words were logical and balanced. We really don’t know when. But I had noticed a trend and could not rember where I had heard everything and wanted some meat for why fall could logically be a time to watch. I don’t trust myself too much because as mama bear I can distort things. This is why community is so important. Sometimes, I have felt called to personally make preparations or lifestyle changes and I will do some small things ahead of this fall. Mainly just basics as the Lord provides the opportunity. Nothing that would have a negative effect if I were totally wrong.

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        • Mick says:

          Jennifer, just so you don’t think you imagined it, there was in fact a bit of discussion in April about a POSSIBLE time frame during which Charlie posited that the crash MIGHT MAYBE occur. It was nothing definite; but to me it seemed as if Charlie was “war-gaming” in order to help all of us be better equipped and situated to Trust-Do-Love whenever the crash comes. (Charlie, please forgive and correct me if I misstated this in any way.)

          If you’d like to see the discussion, you can take a look at Comments #2 and #3 after Charlie’s post on April 8, 2015; as well as Comments #6 through #9 from his April 13 post (there are 347 responses to that post, so be sure to click on the “Older Comments” link and then go down to the sixth comment). Here are the links to the two posts:

          https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/the-calm-before-the-storm/

          https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2015/04/13/whatcha-gonna-do-when-they-come-for-you-part-one/

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          • Jennifer says:

            Thanks, Mick. I will look it over. What I am learning is that even when heaven prepares you it often is not what we initally think it will be. But I am a mom of 8 with 7 currently at home. Momma bear wants to be prepared. So, in my humaness I try to narrow things down and quantafy what really can’t be. God, in his goodness has seen fit to strip us financially so that it’s clear we are dependant upon Him for everything. Other wise, moma bear would have a bunker for her cubs. My comments to Charlie were a way for me to poke fun at myself.

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          • Mick says:

            Jennifer… from one mama bear to another (only 5 cubs, though), I totally hear you on the bunker thing. But as I learn to Trust-Do-Love, I’m learning to relax (some). 🙂

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          • Jennifer says:

            Thanks. A sense of humor seems to help 🙂

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        • SteveBC says:

          Martin Armstrong (to whom I should give real credit for much good information) says that his Economic Confidence Model will peak on October 1, 2015. Between then and I’d guess Nov 24, 2017, he is projecting a huge drop in just about everything except bolthole assets, especially in trust in government. I find it quite interesting that his Model echoes Charlie’s time period, which ends very late in 2017. Armstrong expects hundreds of cities and many states to go bankrupt, government bonds all over the world to become worthless, finance institutions to become insolvent, and more. Eerily similar to what Charlie has been describing to us, although I am about as certain as I can be that Armstrong does not read this site.

          From Armstrong’s perspective the quality of events will change noticeably immediately after October 1, although a 5-day collapse of everything is *not* what he is projecting.

          I just saw a headline that Greek banks may not open on Monday. Greeks are withdrawing massive numbers of Euros in fear that Greece will drop out of the Euro system and reissue Drachmas at a very discounted price, draining liquidity out of the banking system there.

          As a further note, Armstrong’s date of (approximately) Nov 24 2017 or thereabouts is extremely close to the date of the holiday of Thanksgiving in the United States, which occurs on November 23, 2017. A day of Thanksgiving as a possibility for the day of the Rescue seems really quite appropriate. 🙂

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      • diane says:

        Wow! God Bless you.

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      • Mack says:

        Steve, I read a book called “Endgame” by John Maudlin and he talks about “fingers of instability” in the financial markets. He used the same analogy as you; it’s like a sandpile you build at the beach. At a certain point it becomes unstable and it all comes tumbling down. No one can predict exactly what will trigger it, but it will come.

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        • SteveBC says:

          John Mauldin is very good. Here on this site I’ve previously used the term “Threads of Instability” for the exact same phenomenon. The analogy is common, as is a snow avalanche.

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      • Mick says:

        Alllllllrighty then.

        Thanks a lot for the synopsis. All very cheery.

        But look on the bright side. Since everybody will be in the same catastrophic mess, the bill collectors won’t be kicking us out of our houses for not making the mortgage payments. (It’s not much of a silver lining, but I’ll take some positive wherever I can find it.)

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      • Barbara Dore says:

        very scary! good points!

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  19. One other thing I learned in Luisa’s writings is that Jesus wants to live his life in us in a new and real way, his Divine Will replacing our human will. She said that in the ordinary things we do we can just say, “Jesus wants to…cook supper, drive to work, type this report…” Whatever we are doing (apart from error and sin), Jesus wants to do it. In my difficult situations, I have taken to saying, “Jesus wants to show mercy…Jesus wants to forgive…Jesus wants to love.” I have found it eases the situation, no matter how little my own will wants to do those things. And if Jesus wants to do it in me, then I am reaping the benefit, as is the poor soul who is afflicting me–or perhaps more accurately–whom I am afflicting! We all win! Another prayer along the same lines that I have shared here before is, “Lord if you want me to do this, let’s do it together.”

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    • LittleLight says:

      “Lord if you want me to do this, let’s do it together.” I love it! Thank you.

      Also, thank you for the entire post. I prayed the miraculous trust prayer and asked Our Lady of Tepeyac to intercede for Charlie and his family. She is so very beautiful and peaceful and hope-inspiring.

      MMBev, thank you for asking those questions. I so hope to do this, too.

      I’m just a very ordinary person, but what I find so interesting and hopeful, is the inspirations I’ve gotten in my heart when I pray match up to a “T” with what I’ve read here. I get the inspirations independent of any input here. They come first. Then much later, years, months, etc. I read something that is seems to affirm it.

      Actually, that is what made me sit up and take notice when I first stumbled here–last Nov. Charlie, your prescription to TDL and take the next right step was exactly what I heard God tell me after I brought to Him all the research I had done convincing me we are in serious times.

      Janet, what you’ve written gives me such hope. I too, feel that no matter how bad/dire/hopeless, we must not give up begging God for those things you’ve mentioned. This has been on my heart for years. I keep thinking of Jonah and Nineveh. The widow laying preparing for death when God sends endless oil/flour. Also, C.S. Lewis’ Aslan. In spite of all rational insistence that we are doomed these hopes persist in my heart. I know they only persist because God must want it. I have fought my whole life against despair, this hope thing is very new to me. I gently feel Him telling me He wants me to ask/beg. Not just for those under my immediate care but for us all.

      I’ve not done a very good job of begging formally. I do so, then fall out of it and it goes into an interior groaning sort of prayer, constantly in my heart, as I struggle to do what is my daily duty. Truth told it is all done badly. But, praise God, I keep getting up and doing it, and give God all my work, all my (mostly) failures.

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      • The Lord can use it all to our benefit LittleLight! Be confident and unafraid!

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      • LittleLight,
        God judges our efforts very differently. Sometimes, you might think you’re working it all wrong, but in the eyes of God, you’re right where you should be.
        When despair gets to me, it’s very comforting for me to gaze at a special picture depicting comfort – Jesus being comforted by the angel / angels comforting people / Jesus grasping our hand etc. Sometimes I tell the Lord, “I can’t be strong just yet. Please let me rest awhile. Let me lean on You, Lord.”

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    • LittleLight says:

      I forgot to add a funny. Two days ago I was miserable because I knew I must find time to clean the bathrooms yet again. Hah! Apparently they do not self-clean.

      So I had a moment later in the day to start. Not enough time to finish the task, just to start. I get cranky and lose motivation later in the day. Knowing how I struggle with wanting to give up and not start when the entire goal is not achievable and especially when I’m cranky, my awesome husband said: “Jesus wants you to clean the toilet bowls!” We both had a good laugh about that. I’m happy to report that it was helpful 🙂

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      • mmbev says:

        Now that’s right on the money! My WHOLE HOUSE …. AND …. OUTSIDE! without whining or complaining which, of course, I am not. I am so with you LittleLight. You make me feel a great deal better. not whining or complaining.

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        • LittleLight says:

          I wish I could help you! What you write about panic, I understand well. In my case, the basic activities of daily living consume most of what we’ve got to give, so not much left to tackle the big stuff that still needs to be done. In every area things are untidy and disorganized. This is a torment for any of us with type A tendencies, haha.

          Anyhoo, it is an illusion. (Have you ever heard Carrie Underwood’s Temporary Home? Ugh, it makes me weep.) We all know what really matters is the determination to keep our eyes and heart with our Dear Jesus and His Mom, and not give up. Even though the mountain doesn’t ever move. It is the not giving up part, and not the desired and most worthy goal of beauty, organization that is important. There must be some kind of relation to the storm and this turmoil of chaos. In God’s time, the beauty and organization will come. It will be set to right. For what it’s worth, I said the miraculous trust prayer for you and asked St. Jude to intercede for you and your intentions.

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    • Fran says:

      Thank you for your explanations about the Divine Will, Janet. I watched the 2 hour video you posted with Father Iannuzi the other day also. I am understanding more and more, and applying what I learn to my prayer and my life.

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    • Sheri G. says:

      Wow Pelianito!!!! That is absolutely beautiful and sooooo helpful!!! Thank you so much for being faithful and sharing the things Our Lord and Our Mother give you!!!! I for one, (but I know many, many more) truly appreciate it!!!!! Totus tuus, Maria!!! Sheri

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    • Mary W. says:

      I needed your advice today Janet. Thank you. Just hope I remember it when my own will gets in the way !

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    • Observer says:

      Janet, I’ve seen that to a degree also in reading Vassula’s experiences as well as Elizabeth Kindelmann’s (of Flame of Love)….that we should always remember now to say, instead of “I’m going to the store” or “I have to go out now”, etc. that we are told by Jesus to always include Him in such thoughts as “WE are going to the store” et al! I think once when Vassula headed on out the door Jesus, standing aside and still inside, expressed Himself something like “aren’t you forgetting something…..Me?”

      Yes, new things that we have to learn and need to be reminded of which interrupt our old habits of our human natures and our limited understandings.

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  20. I said the prayer of Miraculous Trust for Charlie and his family and I asked for St. Padre Pio’s intercession. I too have weird dreams sometimes that I feel are significant. You all read the one from Dec. 20, but recently, I had one on June 6th. It was bizarre. I saw Bill Clinton and he had his arm around a blonde woman (no jokes please haha!) and he kept telling me it was just Valerie Jarrett and they were working. I knew it wasn’t Valerie Jarrett and all I could think was the lies coming out of politicians these days is astounding. Later I was outside at a mansion, it had a pool, I was laying on the ground, looking at the moon. This was the significant part for me, I wrote about it here; https://veilofveronica.wordpress.com/. I apologize for not just typing it out here, but it is a lot to type again.
    I feel like the moon keeps coming up over and over again with me…Not sure what it means though. Anyway, thanks for posting this. You all give me hope, and let me know I am not alone.

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  21. Barbara Dore says:

    The Hours of the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
    http://www.passioiesus.org/en/horasdelapasion/que_son.htm
    At the age of 17, the Servant of God (SOG) Luisa Piccarreta wrote her first novena … we follow the book, “The 24 Hours of the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

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  22. Mick says:

    Janet, I have prayed the Prayer of Miraculous Trust for Charlie and his family (through the intercession of Sts. Abraham and Joan of Arc), for the food supply (through the intercession of St. Elijah), and for the financial crisis (through the intercession of St. Thomas More).

    I haven’t read through all the comments yet, so maybe somebody has already asked this question. And I know I’ve seen it in one of the 20,000+ comments during the past year or so, but where does one find the 24 Hours of the Passion?

    Thanks for sharing your dreams, and may God bless all of us and all of those whom we care about.

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    • Mick it is in my reply under mmBev’s post quite near the top. Others have asked some good questions, so if you read my replies to them you will have a better understanding. I am a novice in the Divine Will teachings, but the importance of them is so apparent to me that I have to keep promoting them. They tie in very well with the Flame of Love, Fatima, and others. If you haven’t yet watched Fr. Iannuzzi’s talk here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWjIuQU_pyw do yourself a favor and make time for it.

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      • Colleen DeRose says:

        I read a few years ago that the Lord had told Luisa that if just one person would read and reflect on the Hours of the Passion, his/her community would be spared. I have since done this during Lent twice and have asked others to do so. It takes some focus and perseverance but what a grace the Lord offers us through it. Dan Lynch makes available the newer devotions to Jesus, King of all Nations, which promise aid as well. If we avail of these sources of grace with childlike trust, what might we spare others?

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      • Mick says:

        Janet, I just wanted to tell you that as I type this, I am about halfway through with Fr. Iannuzzi’s video. I’m going to finish it as soon as I hit the “send” button for this message. Fr Iannuzzi is blowing me away. Thank you, thank you, thank you for recommending this! 🙂

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        • Kati says:

          Mick, I watched it all too. It is excellent. It is confirming and adding to so many things I’ve been learning lately. It ties in beautifully with two courses I have recently taken from Avila…the Foundations of Prayer course and another dealing with living a life of virtue.

          VERY, very good…

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        • audiemarie2014 says:

          I’m going to have to watch this several times and take notes! Yes, thank you, Janet!

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          • Irish7 says:

            Agree all! I’m loving it too! Very cool how it’s speaking to all of us. Janet, is this the content of the video covered in the book Splendor of Creation that you have recommended? I still haven’t read it, but have it packed for vacation. Soooo excited!!

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          • Yes it is Irish7. And don’t forget Daniel O’Connor’s book “The Crown and Completion of all Sanctity: An introduction to the revelations on the Gift of Living in the Divine Will to the Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta, containing only moratorium-free material”. A Kindle version is available on amazon, but you can also write to Daniel if you want the book in a different format. His blog is: http://dsdoconnor.com/ .

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          • Mick says:

            Ooh, Irish, I want to hear all about that book after you’ve read it! I might have to get myself a copy.

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      • Mary Ann says:

        I heard one sentence that was horrible: With baptismal grace, we do an action assisted by the Trinity. With “the divine will”, the Trinity does the action, not us. Uh. Guys. this. is. heresy. Very subtle heresy. Grace perfects nature. Our freedom and our cooperation, which is the nature of love, is necessary for our salvation. God wants to work through us and with us, not instead of us.

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        • Mary Ann, it is “our freedom and our cooperation” with the Divine Will that allows God to work in us in a new way. God does not circumvent our will, but as we lose attachment to our own will, room is made in us for the operation of the Divine Will. It is all grace, and as in all things holy, we must cooperate, but God does it all.

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      • Janet, Thank you for sharing this video with Father Iannuzzi who discusses Luisa Piccarreta and Living the Divine Will. Very Powerful! At the end of the video he speaks of the 4 Stages that we can go through; Desire – admits us, Knowledge – advances us, Virtue – anchors us, and Life – actualizes it all.

        I’m starting at the nursery school level, but definitely have the “Desire” to learn more, and hopefully “live it” someday. Thanks for the recommendation!

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  23. Kati says:

    Thank you as always, Janet for sharing this with us. I have prayed the Prayer of Miraculous Trust for Charlie and requested the intercession of several of my patron saints form recent years: St. Marcarius, St. Ladislas and St. Saturninus. Their prayers are powerful.

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  24. Barbara Dore says:

    Joseph (patriarch) – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_(patriarch)
    Jump to Brothers sent to Egypt – [edit]. See also: Seven year famine. Joseph gave orders to his servants to fill their sacks with wheat: illuminated Bible by …
    ‎Joseph’s Tomb – ‎Vizier – ‎Joseph in Islam – ‎Zaphnath-Paaneah

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  25. Observer says:

    Now then…..possibly the “beginning of the beginning”?

    ‘It’s going to be bad, whatever happens’: Greece on edge as eurozone exit looms

    “Everybody’s doing it,” said Joanna Christofosaki, in front of a Eurobank cash dispenser in the leafy Athens neighbourhood of Kolonaki. “Our friends have all done it. Nobody wants their money to be worthless tomorrow. Nobody wants to be unable to get at it.”

    A researcher in the archaeology department at the Academy of Athens, Christofosaki said she knew plenty of people who had “€10,000 somewhere at home” and plenty of others who chose to keep their stash at the office. Was she among them? “If I was, I certainly wouldn’t tell you.”

    It was not too hard, in central Athens’ plushest district on Tuesday, to find people worried that the latest breakdown of talks between Greece and its creditors over a new aid-for-reforms deal may have implications for the security – and accessibility – of their savings.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/16/greece-eurozone-exit-athens-imf

    And lately there is more “open” discussion about the debt situation of the big banks in general (remember all those mysterious deaths of various bank executives….knowing too much which mustn’t go public…yet?) leading to controlling your deposit accounts in order to pay off those debts…already limiting withdrawals or “watching” and questioning even not so large withdrawals. Banking has always been a license to steal but nowadays what’s actually yours seems to be considered as “theirs”.

    And more various predictions (prophecies) of a soon arriving “recession within a recession” or otherwise characterized elsewhere as a “depression within a depression”!

    As we move into the necessity of the “great detachment” that will be asked of us….and more, then, attachment to and simple acceptance of His Will.

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  26. Diane says:

    Thank you again TLD Family – Love. I do.

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  27. christiaria says:

    Charlie,
    You’ll be happy to know that three friends and I met for coffee after mass this morning to discuss your visit to Covington, LA in October. It occurred to Sue and Christy (SueZ and Chris on here) that it might be best for us–for a number of reasons–to make contact with the local megachurch to see if they could host the gathering. After we began praying together in the coffeehouse, a lovely woman approached the table to ask for prayers for her niece, who was in surgery at that moment. Turns out she is a member of that very megachurch! We’ll see what God has in store for us. 🙂

    On another matter, this blog on “Hope and the Benedict Option” was quite good: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/hope-and-the-benedict-option/

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  28. Betsy Hunter says:

    Pelianito prays for whoever she dreams about- I pray occasionally for Dad- but since we both dreamed about him, maybe thats the sign to double down. can’t hurt.

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  29. Marita says:

    Charlie, I forgot to mention earlier that I too prayed the Prayer of Miraculous Trust for you and family, and I initially forgot to ask the intercession of the Saints. Then I prayed, which ones should I ask to help Charlie? Immediately I got Sts. Peter and Paul. You have a gang now! That’s what I call my Saint friends, when I call on them for prayer and there are way too many to name, I say “gang, I need your prayers.” They know who they are.

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  30. SteveBC says:

    Observer, this is interesting. As an addition, I should tell everyone to look at the fine print for their checking and savings accounts in their banks. That fine print probably says that when you deposit money in a checking account, you become a creditor of the bank. That means they are not holding *your* funds in safekeeping for you. Apparently, your funds really do become theirs.

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  31. Donette says:

    Come Divine Will, come think in my thinking.
    Come Divine Will, come see in my seeing.
    Come Divine Will, come hear in my hearing.
    Come Divine Will, come breathe in my breathing.
    Come Divine Will, come beat in my heartbeat.
    Come Divine Will, come speak in my speaking.
    Come Divine Will, come sing in my singing.
    Come Divine Will, come pray in my praying.
    Come Divine Will, come eat in my eating.
    Etc. Etc. Etc.

    We invite the Eternal God, The Most Holy Trinity, to do everything with us and permit us to do everything with Him and in this way of our sharing His Divine Activities our actions become new and divine in Him, through Him and with Him. We repair for all things that have gone astray and make all things new in the Divine Will as He has requested Luisa. In linking to Luisa, the little daughter of the Divine Will, we will inherit and possess all that He has promised in her writings.

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  32. I’ve been reading this site for some time and I do enjoy it, primarily the comment section. I must say however that so many seem to caught up in the Charlie’s approval arms race. Sure prayer is great we all need it sometimes I see ” who can pray the most and how often”hoping to get a response from the big guy, ( in this case Charlie not God) . Will something happen yeah sure will when who knows, probably sooner rather than later, predictions are like nuts , even a blind squirrel finds one sometimes.

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    • charliej373 says:

      I wonder why you could not have criticized me without insulting readers here, John. I think your your dismissive tone to them is uncalled for. Please, show the same respect for people here as they show each other and all even in disagreement – which if you read more than just a skim here and there, you will find happens frequently here, but without the sneer you were so eager to deliver.

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    • Dave says:

      John,
      You say you’ve been reading this site for some time now, and this is what you take away?? Wow…

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      • Perhaps I should clarify my comments from yesterday, if at all for my dear mothers sake who is headed to see Charlie in Atlanta, very excited I must say. When Jesus walked amount us the social media of the day was the local street corner and we all know how Jesus saw those who put their righteousness on their sleeves. Today’s blogs and such, for better or worse ( and may say for now) are the street corners of old. I’m sure there are some who don’t feel as “worthy” or ” holy” enough and stand in the shadows outside looking in. Someone said were all here trying to be saints, sounds great to me. However, let us also be careful… ” Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed”

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        • charliej373 says:

          Now that is prudent counsel, John. I think many, who have been so marginalized by the popular culture, are just enthused to see they are not alone – and eager to try to build others up. thanks for coming back to clarify. From this comment, I think you offer a worthy cautionary note.

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        • Dear John,
          I will take your caution for myself, and try to avoid the pit of the Smug Christian.

          That said, I spent much of last night reading this blog, and the comments only served to make want to return to humble prayer. They didn’t make me feel proud or self-righteous that “I’m not like these others”, but they imbued in me a strong need to go on my knees and to care for others through prayer, especially.

          I live on the fringes, John. And there are some mighty storms where I am. But I learned long ago that as much as I pray to the Lord to calm the waters around me, I too must do my part to help Him calm the storms in others, for we are His apostles too.

          And that’s what Charlie and the rest here are doing. God bless them all.

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    • sweetwaterhaven says:

      I gave some strong opinions once in a business meeting causing some to jump on me harshly. The CEO immediately came to my rescue (and I’ll never forget this) with, “Hold on, everybody. He obviously feels very strongly that that’s the case, so it’s at least valid to him.”

      I realized almost instantly that what I had said, aside from being delivered poorly, was not really at the heart of what I wanted to address. It was something else entirely. Still, I was looking at the CEO with some new found respect. Many of the other faces in the room were looking at me, instantly transformed and visibly calm, and I got the sense that whether or not they agreed with what I had said, they had clearly anchored to what the CEO had said, looking at things a bit clearer with that new sliver of light.

      Flipping through the talk radio channels yesterday, I stumbled upon a little nugget. The host (I think it was Hugh Hewitt) was talking about… well, talking on the radio. I missed the entire context of the topic, but his little formula for being productive basically amounted to applying these 3 filters:

      1. Does it need to be said?
      2. Does it need to be said now?
      3. Does it need to be said by me?

      I liked that, so shut off the radio and have been thinking about it on and off ever since. I was thinking about Our Lord, and it seems to me that He really clarified that issue and distilled it all down to this:

      Be charitable in all things.

      God Bless. Jesus, we trust in You!

      MP

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  33. Dan Lynch says:

    Janet writes, “The Storm is coming, but I believe these dreams are an indication that we can still pray that the effects of the Storm will be somehow mitigated through our petitions to the Divine Mercy.”

    To mitigate (lessen) chastisements and to help us save souls, Jesus King of All Nations asked us to pray the Novena in Honor of Jesus as True King and made us a promise. He asked us to pray, “Forgive us, O Sovereign King, our sins against you. Jesus, you are a King of Mercy. We have deserved your Just Judgment. Have mercy on us, Lord, and forgive us. We trust in your Great Mercy! O most awe – inspiring King, we bow before you and pray; May your Reign, your Kingdom, be recognized on earth!” (Journal 29).
    Jesus promised us, “Each time you say these prayers, I will mitigate the severity of the chastisements upon your country.” (Journal 41).

    He also said, “My daughter, My little one, I offer again to straying mankind, a treasure with which they may again turn aside My Just Judgment. It is My devotion of ‘Jesus, King of All Nations’. I tell you most solemnly, little one, that one of the fruits of this devotion will be the buying of more time from My Mercy in order that souls may be converted before it is too late.” (Journal 303) . . . .Pray, pray, pray! Prayer offered to Me through My Holy Mother. Only she can avert the chastisement that now swiftly approaches.” (Journal 311).

    Jesus concluded, “Child, I have given a GREAT REMEDY in My devotion of Jesus, King of All Nations. I ask My children to embrace this devotion. To pray this devotion. To invoke Me as Jesus, King of All Nations. My Mercy and Protection will cover those souls, families and nations that invoke Me thus. I will stretch forth to them My scepter of Mercy that they may take firm hold and not let go of My Divine Will and Law. I will cover them with My Kingly Mantle that My Perfect Justice may not reach them as it will reach those who have abandoned My Law.” (Journal 318). Learn more here:

    http://jkmi.wsiefusion.net/his-protection-from-chastisements

    “In the shadow of your wings I take refuge
    till the storms of destruction pass by.” (Psalm 57).

    Dan Lynch Apostolates promoting devotion to
    Our Lady of Guadalupe, Jesus King of All Nations,
    Our Lady of America and Saint John Paul II
    Visit our website at http://www.JKMI.com
    E-Mail Us at JKMI@JKMI.com
    May Our Lady of Guadalupe keep you under the mantle of her protection and
    may the Reign of Jesus King of All Nations be recognized in your heart!

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  34. Barbara Dore says:

    A Chaplet of Divine Mercy. This prayer will serve to appease My Wrath ( 476)

    Friday, September 13, 1935.
    In the evening, when I was in my cell, I saw an Angel, the executor of divine wrath. He was clothed in a dazzling robe, his face gloriously bright, a cloud beneath his feet. From the cloud, bolts of thunder and flashes of lightning were springing into his hands; and from his hand they were going forth, and only then were they striking the earth. When I saw this sign of divine wrath which was about to strike the earth, and in particular a certain place, which for good reasons I cannot name, I began to implore the Angel to hold off for a few moments, and the world would do penance. But my plea was a mere nothing in the face of the divine anger. (…) At that very moment I felt in my soul the power of Jesus’ grace, which dwells in my soul. When I became conscious of this grace, I was instantly snatched up before the Throne of God. (…)
    I found myself pleading with God for the world with words heard interiorly.

    As I was praying in this manner, I saw the Angel’s helplessness: he could not carry out the just punishment which was rightly due for sins. Never before had I prayed with such inner power as I did then.
    The words with which I entreated God are these: Eternal Father, I offer You the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ for our sins and those of the whole world; for the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us. (Diary, 474-475)

    The next morning, when I entered chapel, I heard these words interiorly: Every time you enter the chapel, immediately recite the prayer which I taught you yesterday. When I had said the prayer, in my soul I heard these words: This prayer will serve to appease My wrath. (476)

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  35. Mack says:

    Charlie, I hope when you are able you will say something about the pope and his new encyclical. I just finished reading it and it certainly has a lot of good points, about our need to be good stewards of creation, etc. Yet I am troubled too because he definitely believes in climate change as promoted by many left-wing organizations. He criticizes the use of fossil fuels, and proposes that international organizations should make policy on this. That is what concerns me. There is also strife going on among Catholics who have different opinions on the climate. Is this confusion all part of the Storm? Yet the pope himself says “On many concrete questions, the Church has no reason to offer a definitive opinion; she knows that honest debate must be encouraged among experts, while respecting divergent views.” (no. 61) However the pope is clearly on the side of those promoting the global warming/climate change agenda.

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    • charliej373 says:

      I will not comment until I have read it. It is all tied into the issue of Medjugorje, as well, and it is part of the confusion…but also part of the emerging from the confusion.

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    • Jennifer says:

      I have skimmed it (for two hours) and I too think there are good points. I am not a scientist but I don’t think this encyclical falls apart if climate change is disproved. We are polluting the earth this is a fact and this is symptomatic of how we treat each other in a throw away society. Can we continue along this path? I was comforted by the fact that Pope Francis made distinctions where environmentalism breaks with Catholicism, such as the issue of population control and he does call for the principle of susidiarity where possible. He calls out the corporate corruption and system where a small percent of the population have the majority of resources especially financial ones. Also he seems to recommend the distributist idea of small business. I don’t think he was advocating a lot of crushing reglation of the poor, but more responsibility from the corporations with an eye to sustainable development. I also liked the idea of what he called practical relativism which is a self centetedness which enables the misuse and abuse of the Earth’s resources but also human life. I think he gives us some things to really ponder which are outside the paradym of American politics.

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    • Ed Allison says:

      I tried to read it, but simply cannot get all the way through it. It makes me angry that the Holy Father has chosen to promote the myth of man made global warming. This myth is nothing more than a tool of oppression and greed. Nevermind that there has been no increase in global temps in 18 years, despite the continued rise in CO2. I believe this will be used against him. I am all for good stewardship of the environment. But you only have to look to geologic history to see that the warming of the late 20th century was nothing unusual. There have been many times since the last ice age that the earth has been warmer than today, most recently the Medieval Warm period around the year 1000 AD. Certainly, there were less people, and no evil internal combustion engines coughing out CO2 then.

      Words like ‘unprecedented’ are being used to describe the warming of the late 20th century. It’s simply not true. It’s all a natural cycle folks.

      Pope Francis rightly decries other ecological issues (pollution, unbridled consumption, etc.). But when it comes to anthropogenic (man made) global warming, he’s wrong. He may have the mantle of infallibility when speaking ‘ex cathedra’, but here (thankfully) he’s just a nice old man with an opinion.

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      • janet333 says:

        I was reading this recently…..”Francis is extending the work of his predecessors. Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI both spoke of environmental protection as an urgent moral concern” . ” In 1990, John Paul II said Catholics had a special religious obligation to protect God’s creation from damage caused by “industrial waste, the burning of fossil fuels, unrestricted deforestation” and other practices. Benedict was dubbed “the Green Pope,” for his frequent calls to stop ecological devastation and his efforts to bring solar power to the Vatican city-state. “Can we remain indifferent before the problems associated with such realities as climate change?” Benedict said in 2010.
        Both pontiffs advocated for conservation as part of a “culture of life” that includes ending abortion. Francis has done the same in his remarks, decrying a “culture of waste” that devalues human life.”

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        • SteveBC says:

          Janet333, overall, they seem to have it right, at least as far as I can see it. However, details matter. The fact is that CO2 levels are very low compared to past averages. If CO2, which is now at 400 ppm, were to rise to 1,500-2,000 ppm, it would be getting back to the *low* end of average CO2 levels over the past 500M years. CO2 is plant food. We need much more of it.

          What I would like to see is a technology that can clean up coal so that only CO2 is emitted, and then we should burn as much of it as we can. As CO2 levels rise, the Earth would bloom with green growth. Temperatures would be little affected. As it is, we appear to be heading into a Maunder Minimum type of decline in solar activity, which would result in lower temperatures. The net is that sometimes what we really need is actually outside of the way we are thinking about an issue.

          Nonetheless, we also need to do a much better job than we currently do of protecting our environment and cultivating the Earth like a great Garden.

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    • Jorge Bizarro says:

      Humm… you have a point, but I would rather state that the trouble is not the Pope but his advisers. This means he needs our PERMANENT PRAYERS to help him avoid errors. Anyway, given that I think the future generations will live in a ‘new Earth and Heaven’ I’m not really worried about it. However we do have a new profile emerging from this pontificate: the Papacy is gaining momentum in ‘worldly matters’ (e.g. the Cuban agreement) so to speak. However, this was the common bread in the Midle Ages, where the Papacy, besides Spiritual endeavours also had a role on keeping peace, etc, etc. I think we’re are witnessing a ‘resurrection’ of this ‘worldly’ role and this is needed (even if the subjects are a bit foggy by now) because very, very, soon the Catholic Church will be the Only Light in the World.
      God Bless and Our Lady protect you…

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  36. SteveBC says:

    This morning I had images of the people who went over Niagara Falls in barrels a hundred years ago. Their friends would seal them into the barrel and set them floating down the Niagara River. Inside their barrel, they would know that it was *inevitable* that they would at some point go over the Falls, but they would not know precisely when that would happen. Though they knew everything about their journey, they would be surprised when the drop actually began.

    The latest news at DrudgeReport.com has articles on a white man shooting and killing folks at a Christian church in Charleston, SC. The shooter’s middle name is apparently “Storm”. After I read the headline, I went upstairs and looked at my clock. It read “11:11”.

    A sad day for those at the church. More signs of the approaching storm?

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  37. I have had vivid, wild and sometimes what looks to be prophetic dreams since I was a kid. I used to wonder what they meant and now I use them as a prompt for my prayers. I can only imagine that God can use this time to speak to us, the time when we sleep and are lingering somewhere in the subconscious, maybe spiritual world. I once (2011) dreamt of a wicked fire. I dreamt that streams of fire were falling from the sky, actually pouring from the sky, everywhere it settled was also a previous place where animals had died. I kept telling everyone “watch, where many animals have died that is where the fire will land!” When I shared it with my father he told me of a fire in Wisconsin and a story of it stopping short in front of a church where many were praying. Maybe they aren’t necessarily prophetic yet open our ears to the present, lead us to pray for those we see, or open our hearts to love more. Love the comments from everyone such an eclectic group yet bound by Christ.

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    • Mick says:

      Planting, the story that your father told you is the story of the Peshtigo Fire and the miracle that happened in Champion, Wisconsin, at what is now the shrine of Our Lady of Good Help. Here’s a link, if you’d like to learn more:

      http://www.exploringoffthebeatenpath.com/Parks/Shrine_of_Good_Help/index.html

      The Marian apparitions which took place there are the only fully approved Marian apparitions in the United States. It is an amazing place. If you ever get a chance to visit (it’s not far from Green Bay), you wouldn’t be disappointed.

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      • Petra says:

        Mick and Planting: Are you also aware that the Great Peshtigo Fire happened the same night as the Chicago Fire? This is from a website about the Peshtigo Fire:

        “The great Midwestern city of Chicago also happened to endure a terrible fire that same fateful night, (October 8, 1871) and for whatever reasons — an irresistibly charming legend about a cow and a lantern among them — the Chicago Fire became part of the national consciousness while the Peshtigo tragedy gradually slipped into obscurity, eventually remembered primarily by scholars, local “old-timers” and Wisconsin school children (who are required to study their state’s history in the 4th grade).”

        Very mysterious that both fires burned vast areas to the ground. And the miracle in Champion, Wisconsin makes it even more mysterious.

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      • I am driving cross country with 7 of my eight little cherubs this summer and hope to make a few stops in Wisconsin, this being one and a Shrine in LaCrosse. Thank you Mick. I was trying to remember the story but it escaped my memory.

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  38. rickie says:

    Dan,
    I remember the beautiful image of Our Lady of Guadalupe coming to south Florida just after the terrible storm of hurricane. Andrew So many people were comforted in their tragedies by the presence of her peaceful image, our Mother come to console. I remember taking a little girl up to the image and together we placed our hands on her image and placed all our trust in her. There is something about praying together with a child in a crisis that calms the roaring seas……….I’ll never forget the peace I felt by the presence of Our Lady of Guadalupe and that sharing of childlike trust from that little humble child. God’s great gifts often come from the love He gets from little children.
    I also remember praying at another church (I think we followed her from church to church) with two friends. One was healed from stomach problems, and there are stories of many many conversions.
    Now we pray every day in front of a lifesize replica of Our Lady of Guadalupe. She has been taken to abortion clinics on occasion.
    Thankyou, Dan for all you are doing. I have that miraculous prayer at home. I’m going to return to praying it, as I had stacked it away with other books years ago. Thank-you for reminding me of it again. Our prayer group used to pray the prayers but the group disbanded with time. Now the need for those prayer is more imminent.
    God bless everyone………Thank-you Charlie

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  39. Jose says:

    Charlie: besides the (spiritual) advice that you have been given lately (and over the years), is there anything that, on a purely human level, you would recommend doing to somehow help weather the storm? Are you yourself doing anything in particular?

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    • charliej373 says:

      The only things I am doing are this website and the visits now…and a few other things quietly to hep people rebuild their confidence and make their stand. But personal preparations…that is not something I am called to. BUT I absolutely delight in visiting the refuges and places that people who are called to have been putting together – and I delight and give thanks to God for their generosity of heart to do it now.

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  40. EllenChris says:

    Just had the chance to read about 2/3 of Pope Francis’ enclyclical. He is trying to construct a comprehensive theological approach to ecological issues and does a better job than I had hoped. He does say that there is room for more dialogue on climate, and that the Church is not making a definitive stand on it. He puts the questions into and the context of human dignity and defends the Christian value of stewardship against the accusations of “domination” in these paragraphs:

    120. ***Since everything is interrelated, concern for the protection of nature is also incompatible with the justification of abortion.*** [[What a GREAT statement!! EC]] How can we genuinely teach the importance of concern for other vulnerable beings, however troublesome or inconvenient they may be, if we fail to protect a human embryo, even when its presence is uncomfortable and creates difficulties? “If personal and social sensitivity towards the acceptance of the new life is lost, then other forms of acceptance that are valuable for society also wither away”.[97]

    121. We need to develop a new synthesis capable of overcoming the false arguments of recent centuries. Christianity, in fidelity to its own identity and the rich deposit of truth which it has received from Jesus Christ, continues to reflect on these issues in fruitful dialogue with changing historical situations. In doing so, it reveals its eternal newness.[98] — —

    In this paragraph and the following ones, he is refuting the accusations that Christianity promotes the exploitation of the environment. He puts the blame for this squarely and forcefully on what he describes as a soulless and mechanistic technocracy. This has been referred to in Christian classrooms, but it needed to be said from the Chair of Peter. Go, Pope Francis!!

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    • audiemarie2014 says:

      Thank you, EllenChris!

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    • CrewDog says:

      Ellen & Gang,
      I simply don’t understand why the Pope/Vatican Officialdom would put out such a “message” now!!?? I see absolutely no up-side to this. The only people to “Cheer” this on is the Catholic Church hating-n-godless Left who desire traditional Christians to stifle themselves or worse and would like nothing better than the “Big Dog” of Christian Denominations to implode! This Encyclical causes division among Catholics and other Christian sects at a time when there is Clear-n-Present Danger from any number of other pressing matters. From what I have garnered from reading articles about this it is sounding more & more like a cut-n-paste job from a typical Democrat Party or European Left Party election “Feel-Good Platform” .. just standard boilerplate of what we have come to expect from the Mother Earth Environmental Left Crowd and the, Tax-Payer funded, rarefied air breathing academia. I detest the waste and consumerism but human nature is what it is. The USA has been in Clean-Up Mode for 50 years to the point of shutting down our clean fossil/nuclear power industry, regulating/taxing industry and private small business to the point of extinction …. along with the jobs and wealth that goes along with it. Our jobs and wealth have gone to China and India where they are putting dirty coal plants on line at the rate of one-a-week and they don’t give a S*** about the Environment …. Same deal in the rest of the Third World…. looks to me like BigBro, Share the Wealth, Socialism!! …. Sure enough! The usual Phony Catholic suspects (Pelosi) were quick to jump on PF’s Climate Change Bandwagon and use it as a “Club” to to “Beat-Up” on Conservatives. The Capitalist countries of the West have provided untold amounts of blood & treasure to free the enslaved, alleviate poverty and clean up the environment. Show me where any godless Communist/Socialist country has done likewise … Eh!!? … I’m sorry that most of Africa, South America, Middle East and much of Asia is in the hands of corrupt and/or violent despots who have committed their citizens to slavery, ignorance and misery! For 65 years the USA/UN, with mostly US blood-n-treasure, has funneled countless $$$ into these places with much, if not most, of the $$$ ending up in the pockets of corrupt “leaders’ or Swiss bank accounts! Yes!! I’m well aware that there was/is lots of Geo-Politics going on but …. the USA and Europe have already bankrupted themselves in their failed Socialist Share the Wealth schemes and our financial system is near collapse … so … I simply can’t figure out what “blood” Pope Francis and “Advisers” plan to squeeze out of this “Turnip”!? The establishment of some Global Governmental Entity to “oversee” Planet Earth Clean-Up and “Share the Wealth” is laughable considering 65 years of the UN record and the current World Situation! The USA/EU is on the brink of bankruptcy and China, India and Russia are not known for the generosity. If The Storm is, in fact, upon US then Thee & Me, soon, will have a bunch of other “Stuff” of much greater critical concern!! ;-(
      So it came to me in the Night! As I believe that God is in control, I must assume that this is just an “Act” in The Storm and Glorious Rescue Play to come! It’s a Divine Play where the “actors” must read their lines and play their roles as God the “Playwright” has directed. For years I have considered The Passion of Jesus as a Divine Play for Our Salvation. Jesus, Judas, Peter, Pilate, Chief Priests and ……. All had to play their roles properly for the blessed ending … Resurrection!! I just wish I could watch The Play from Outer Space!!

      GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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      • bflocatholic says:

        Ah, Crewdog. God bless you. You’re nothing if not consistent!!

        As far as I am concerned, it comes down to trust. You are an ex-military guy. You get the importance of the chain of command and of trusting your superiors. The question is – do you trust Pope Francis? I do – I may not “like” or understand what he’s doing, but I’m going to trust and follow his lead.

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        • CrewDog says:

          Yes Gang!

          Trust is essential to our survival in the unpleasantness to come. I have Blind Trust in The Father, Jesus and The Holy Ghost! With Pope Francis, and any human being, I’ll trust with my eyes and ears open 😉 I have come to believe, more and more, in my observation that we are witnessing the unfolding of a Divine Play where Pope Francis has a big role to play. We hope and pray that we will be able to do our “bit parts” well when the time comes for our “Stage Debut”! Yes! I also believe in the “Chain of Command” that all of us may well experience soon, on a smaller scale, as we assemble with other Believers to weather The Storm! I just hope I don’t end up in The Light Brigade or get led to some hilltop in Montana where I end up asking myself, like that 7th Calvary Trooper, where did all these $#%^&$ “Indians” come from?

          GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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      • Jesus speaks to Luisa of a time when such horrible chastisements will come upon man that, afterwards, they will turn to the Pope for consolation and truth, to free them from the evils and to bring them to safety.

        It is essential, for God’s plan for these days, for the people of the world to *like* the Pope. This is in order that people of good will know where to turn after the Warning and the Chastisements.

        I think we can all agree that Pope Francis is more *liked* than any of us would have ever dreamed it possible (prior to the Triumph, that is) for a Pope to be liked by the world.

        An amazing plan is in the process of unfolding. A greater plan than any of us could have ever imagined. What is needed now is our trust.

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      • Mack says:

        Crew Dog, I can really relate to your last paragraph. I have been troubled by the encyclical on two counts in particular:
        1. It is very hard on free markets, but those are the drivers of the economic progress that lifts up the poor. The pope’s recommendation to slow economic growth in favor of the environment would, I believe, hit the poor the hardest–the very people he wants to help. With all respect for the pope, I think his views on the economy reflect more of his background from Argentina–a true economic basket case if there ever was one.
        2. The elites of the liberal West–like the editors of the NY Times–are praising him for this, and I find this troubling. They have no regard for the Catholic Church, often mock it, and fight it on every front. It’s like they regard the pope as useful for their cause even while they mock him otherwise. To have the adulation of the world is a red flag for a believer. Jesus told us the world will hate us like it hated him, so if the world loves us we’d better watch out.

        So why is God allowing all this? It came to me as I woke up in the night so troubled by it, that it has to all be part of God’s plan. I don’t understand the plan. But I decided that on this I just have to surrender my will to God and let him direct the play, as you said above. God is in control and I have to trust him on this. Charlie said that during this year, things will not be what they seem. It seems like for the Pope this moment is an Easter Sunday type of moment, with all the adulation, glory, and praise coming in from surprising quarters. Perhaps instead it is really a Palm Sunday moment, with the Passion up ahead. As the Storm grows deeper, it probably is. But whatever it is, God is in control and I have to trust him to lead us through it all.

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        • Jennifer says:

          Mack and all:
          I’m so glad we can have such civil discussion, truely a blessing. One thing about the free market economy to consider in all of this is that it’s not so free anymore. G.K Chesterton warned about Capitolism becoming too top heavy a d predicted corporations would become oppressive. He advocated distributism, meaning people should own the means of their own production. This reflects the principle of susidiarity which encourages the smallest entity to get the job done when feasible. Chesterton did not say how we could get there. Perhaps after the rescue. But clearly the mega corps have way, too much power and are very corrupt. The anti trust laws put in place after the great depression where all thrown out in the 90’s during the Clinton administration. There’s been way too much greed and focus on short term profit. This has had effects on the environment, on human capitol, corruption with lobbying and special interest, and on and on. I personally don’t think much will be realisticly implimented until after the collapse. The system is too sick and will inevitably implode. In the mean time, people will distort the Pope’s encyclical for thier own purposes. I think this is a valuable resource for the rebuilding period. But I intend to try to impliment aspects as I can in my own lifestyle. And I do feel called very strongly to a simpler lifestyle.

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    • SteveBC says:

      I haven’t read the encyclical and probably won’t. However, I do have a couple of points I think worth making. These are just my opinions and cautions, so take them as you wish. 🙂

      First, unless you have read and thought through the material of the encyclical in its original words, and thought over the material carefully (because it is undoubtedly complex and multi-level), you should be ultra-cautious about adopting or dismissing what you think it says.

      Second, we *know* beyond a shadow of a doubt that most articles in the media about the encyclical will provide a distorted view of its contents. You really must read the encyclical itself or speak in depth with someone who has and who respects it enough to remain relatively neutral in studying and commenting on it.

      Third, when studying the encyclical, you need to distinguish between the thread of the pope’s “tapestry of ideas” that is associated with global warming per se and all the other threads that deal with christian stewardship, the Culture of Life, and so on. An encyclical that is really about stewardship and only incidentally uses global warming as simply an example of poor stewardship should be judged far less harshly than an encyclical that is centered on global warming and only incidentally about stewardship and Life. The former type of encyclical might very well be a worthy addition to Pope Francis’s oeuvre and an addition to Church scholarship despite the faux pas over global warming. The latter type of encyclical would use/warp the truths of the Church for a false teaching and would therefore be legitimately ignored or even condemned in the Public Square.

      I hope these thoughts provide some help in settling on a reasonable way to evaluate the pope’s encyclical. Pope Francis impresses me as a man capable of carrying a complex web of ideas in his head long enough to express them in an accessible way. It makes sense to me that he would want to expose the many aspects of the Old System of the World that have rotted, aspects that we should *also* want exposed. After all, the Storm is coming *because* that System is so rotted that it must be swept away.

      If he is mistaken about global warming and seeks to place more power in the hands of the elites who are utterly corrupt, yet otherwise makes a series of excellent points about what our world and our attitudes *should* be like to encourage Truth and Life, then he is simply demonstrating to us all that even a really smart guy like him can’t get as far “outside the box” as he should be. What is coming in the New System of the World really can’t be seen right now from our current perspective. We all need a few good raps upside the head with a large baseball bat at this point. Given that, I’d be inclined to cut the pope a break, take the good parts of his encyclical, and toss the two or three items that are not worth keeping.

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      • Mick says:

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      • Dave says:

        Steve,

        I did read the whole thing yesterday precisely because of what you say in your second paragraph. I was expecting to see more things that riled me, but overall it was a well grounded expression of the proper way to treat God’s gift of creation. I was disappointed at his use of buzzwords like “greenhouse gasses” and “solid scientific consensus”, but I have always believed we should do many of these things because it’s right to reject wasteful and selfish practices. These should be done because they are the right thing to do, not because we can save the earth. There is no “normal”, so how can we set any sort of realistic goals?? The real science is still in great debate.

        Capitalism says “what’s mine is mine”, communism says “what’s yours is mine” but Christianity says “what’s mine is yours”. I see this encyclical as a way to separate the wheat from the chaff. When I see a call for some sort of governmental body to oversee resources or set standards, I see that it will only work in the intended way with people filled with the Holy Spirit. Any other temporal approach will only degenerate into a push to either side.

        Given the realistic/cynical view I have of the world, I don’t see things going a good way, but this is a good signpost to place along the road. Francis is doing his best to remind us of our proper relationship with creation, unfortunately as usual many will only read the filtered bites of text that come out of our media and point fingers.

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        • SteveBC says:

          Dave, thank you so much for your comment. From what I can see, it seems that the encyclical is far more about proper stewardship of the Earth in Life-affirming ways than anything else. Indeed you are correct that many of the things he discusses are things we should be doing every day ourselves in our daily lives. A lot of our problems would go away if we were self-responsible in these ways.

          The main change between our world now and our world after the Storm will be in our attitudes, as you point out. Then people will have a very different take on this encyclical and treat it with the seriousness it deserves, build on it, and turn the world back into a garden. We can certainly do it, but we do need new attitudes and proper Inspiration.

          I hope I don’t have to give up my iPhone though, and I’m sure I’m not alone in this. 🙂

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      • torilen says:

        Well said, as usual, Steve. Thank you.

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    • Pope Francis seems to be promoting a more wholistic approach to the environmental issues that face us, as EllenChris pointed out in her comment. Whether he is right or wrong about the science, one thing is certain, that many people and organizations will take segments of his words out of context to further their own agenda. People are very emotional about this issue, and that clouds reason. I think best practice is to look at the whole document *dispassionately* and let the full message sink in.

      On the topic of natural calamities that are being blamed on global warming/climate change, I wanted to draw attention to something that was touched on in Fr. Iannuzzi’s video on Luisa Piccarreta’s writings on the Divine Will. What he explained is that when Adam rebelled against the Creator, creation rebelled against man. Before the Fall there were no volcanoes, tornadoes, floods. All was in harmony. As sin entered the world and increased, so did natural calamity and violence. Fast forward to the present day. Huge increase in sin and huge increase in natural calamities. Coincidence? Colossians 1: 17 tells us that “In (Christ) all things hold together.” It follows that the more we reject Christ, the more things fall apart. Our fight is with principalities and powers. The more we learn to live in the Divine Will, the more we will be in harmony with nature.

      If you haven’t watched the video here is the link again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWjIuQU_pyw

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      • Barbara Dore says:

        Janet made good strong points about the nature.

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      • SteveBC says:

        Janet, I find your (or Father Iannuzi’s) comments about natural calamities over time troubling. I happen to believe that God created the Earth 4.5 billion years ago, and it was a very violent affair at times. A huge meteor helped kill off the dinosaurs 60M years ago. The Deccan Traps near India show huge volcanic eruptions existed then. The super volcano in Yellowstone National Park has blown sky-high, all before Adam’s time.

        In fact, the current interglacial period during which humans have risen to our current civilization has been an unusually calm and favorable period, though it has largely been concurrent with the period after Adam and Eve sinned.

        The Storm has as part of its process the removal of the heavenly hand that has kept things calm despite the buildup of corruption and sin over the past several hundred years. Now we get to see the consequences of our civilization’s corruption with greater natural disasters, but that is only during the Storm.

        Perhaps I have misinterpreted what you meant. If so, please let me know what I am missing.

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        • Within mankind’s life on earth (that is, about 6,000 years), creation tends to rebel the more sinful mankind becomes. Fr. Iannuzzi argues well that the violence of the Earth for the millions/billions of years before the creation of man was the result of the fall of the Angels. Nevertheless when Adam was created, he was put in the Garden — there, creation obeyed him (Adam) perfectly.

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          • SteveBC says:

            Daniel, you and Fr Iannuzzi could very well be right. I’m not sure that can be disproven as a hypothesis, though. How could we prove it right or wrong without being on the other side of the veil of death?

            Besides, God is extravagant, if for no other reason than that He can be. I look back at the long record of our universe and our planet somewhat in the same way that I look back on my own life to date, or yours or anyone else’s. It seems to me that ascribing the violence of nature to heavenly battles diminishes the stark and utter beauty of what we see behind us in Time. Fireworks are violent, but they are immensely beautiful *because* of their violence, not in spite of it.

            I do understand that violence created by bad or evil humans is not the same as the fireworks of a gorgeous universe where we are made from starstuff created in immensely violent explosions of stars. There is a beauty in the universe that does not exist in evil human violence. But I just feel that the universe as it is should be taken as it is, as the incredibly violent and incredibly gorgeous stage background within which our lives are lived and our acts carried out, whether they are evil or good.

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          • Steve — I should have been more clear. Fr. Iannuzzi actually refers to the violence of the dinosaurs, etc., as results of the Fall of the Angels. As for mere physical violence of inanimate nature; that indeed can be marveled at for its beauty yet still, in effect, be chastising. I find thunderstorms beautiful, even though they unfortunately kill and destroy.

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          • SteveBC says:

            Dan, I’m with you on the dinosaurs, since one of the contributing factors appears to have been something quite literally falling from the heavens!

            As you say, natural violence is both a thing of beauty and a cause of destruction. If we were not here to see it in some small fashion as eyes for God, would it be perceived as beautiful? Probably not.

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        • Barbara Dore says:

          I thought the flood destroyed dinosaurs. During the flood, everything was completely destroyed. God sent the selected animals to Noah’s Ark. The rock under Earth may be millions years ago but God created everything for us six thousand ago. Earth Nature may be now 6,000 years old. Four thousand ago , The flood took a place… two thousand years ago , Jesus walked on Earth… I am not sure if this fact is correct. Please correct me if it is wrong.

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          • Barbara I wasn’t sure how to answer your question. I found the excerpt below here http://catholicbridge.com/catholic/catholic_creationism.php and thought it gave a fairly simple explanation of what the Church has to say (or not say) on the matter.
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            “How old is the Earth? How old is the Universe?

            “Some faithful Catholics have advanced the theory that the world is 6,000-10,000 years old by adding up all the generations listed in the Bible (the variance because of different interpretations of “begets”). Other faithful Catholics believe scientists that say the earth is about 4 billion years old and that the universe is 13.7 billion years old. They Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) wrote:

            “‘… the progress of thought in the last two decades helps us to grasp anew the inner unity of creation and evolution and of faith and reason. It was a particular characteristic of the 19th century to appreciate the historicity of all things and the fact that they came into existence. It perceived that things that we used to consider as unchanging and immutable were the product of a long process of becoming. This was true not only in the realm of the human but also in that of nature. It became evident that the universe was not something like a huge box into which everything was put in a finished state, but that it was comparable instead to a living, growing tree that gradually lifts its branches higher and higher to the sky.’ Cardinal Ratzinger, In The Beginning: A Catholic Understanding of the Story of Creation and the Fall, 1986, 1995

            “The Catholic Church embraces an old earth theory, but it won’t ever turn it into a Dogma (necessary belief). We don’t even require people to believe the earth is round, even though science has proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. We don’t have to know everything about science to be saved. We simply need to believe in Jesus, surrender to him, and be baptised. Thank God.”
            <<<
            So the Church does not tell us what to believe in this matter as it is not necessary for our salvation, which is what the business of the Church is, not history or science.

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        • Excellent questions Steve! I don’t think I have a definitive answer and would love to ask Fr. Iannuzzi himself if I can find his contact info. Anyone?

          I too tend to believe that that God created the Earth 4.5 billion years ago, etc. My thoughts on your question is that linear time did not apply to Paradise before the Fall, but that the Fall impacted all of linear time. In the Divine Will, everything is simultaneous, as Luisa says, always “in act”, so if Adam had never sinned, the entire creation event would have been much different.

          Of course no way to prove any of it, but I am inclined to believe that sin definitely has a hand in the violence we see in the created world, as it has a hand (fist?) in the violence of the human heart. Best I can do, sorry!

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          • SteveBC says:

            “My thoughts on your question is that linear time did not apply to Paradise before the Fall, but that the Fall impacted all of linear time. … if Adam had never sinned, the entire creation event would have been much different.”

            Actually, Janet, that helps me understand your intent pretty well, I think, and it is an audacious and beautiful hypothesis.

            Being somewhat of a scientist, which requires that a hypothesis be disprovable, I don’t see how to distinguish between your concept here and what we see in the record of evolution accepting it as is.

            My general attitude is to accept the evolution of the universe as it is, because it is so much like the small-step-every-day evolution of any human (sinful or not) and stunningly beautiful in itself. To my eye and mind, there is plenty of room inside that magnificent evolution from the Big Bang to our world today for every possibility of human paths, without need to think it was all altered by Adam and Eve’s choice. But my hypothesis when compared to yours is equally not disprovable.

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          • SteveBC says:

            I may have to modify my thesis, Janet. In one of the posts Mark Mallett published on his site today, he quoted Genesis: “To the man he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree of which I had forbidden you to eat, cursed be the ground because of you! In toil shall you eat its yield all the days of your life. Thorns and thistles shall it bring forth to you, as you eat of the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face shall you get bread to eat, until you return to the ground, from which you were taken…” (Gen 3:17-19)”

            This actually supports your intriguing idea that Adam and Eve’s Fall actually did affect linear time throughout its course, not just from that point onward. “Thorns and thistles.” Or it could simply say that the Earth was coarsened from that moment on.

            I’ve read this quote before in my life several times, but it was not until you set forth your thesis about time and the impact of the Fall that I could see in the quote the possible reality of what you have explained.

            I’m not sure I’m going to change my allegiance(?) to my previous thinking (yet!), but I am certainly going to hold both ideas in my head while I consider them. One or the other or both or something even stranger could be true.

            Thank you!

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          • Well Steve, the good news is that our theories have no bearing on our salvation! I suspect that we will all be very surprised when we get to heaven and the details of God’s plan become clear. Can’t wait! May God keep us faithful to end.

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      • donna says:

        amazing

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      • Jennifer says:

        Fr. Iannuzzi is great. Love his sense of humor.

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      • Irish7 says:

        Thanks Peli. I have wondered if this Encyclical and its use of cringe worthy phrases from the Left’s propaganda isn’t in some way setting the table for this truth. Maybe Pope Francis is cultivating minds and hearts for the ultimate teaching on the environment — the connection between sin and the state of the Earth. ??? You have to admit it’s hard to lead with that right out of the gate when addressing a pagan world. 😏.

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        • gwen5559 says:

          I think so too. It opens a crack with the lost. If they respect the Holy Father in his strong stand on the environment, maybe they will consider other teachings. You need to start somewhere. I pray they peep through the crack and open their eyes to the beauty of the Word of God!

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  41. EllenChris says:

    Crew Dog, while in one sense I sympathize with your frustration, I don’t think that the Pope’s intention is to give any legitimization to the Left at all — just the opposite. This is their big Cause right now. The Pope is making a stand against all the bad accusations that the Left is making at the Church, and showing how they are wrong. At the same time, while he has their attention, he is telling them what the Church does believe about the sanctity of human life. He got in a great zinger shooting down the defense of abortion. If you don’t stand up to the bad guys and tell them off now and again, they think that they have you bamboozled. The Pope is fighting back on their own ground. You or I may not agree with every detail, but the over-all context and sweep of this letter is “wise as a serpent.” Fear not. As you well know, God wins.

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    • SteveBC says:

      I would say that in general the Left takes the surface and tone of what the pope does or says and judges it good. After all, the Left is truly all about surface and tone. It is the embodying of the evil teaching that calls evil good and good evil.

      They fail to read (or ignore) the fine print where the pope is really doing his best work. When the Left does read the fine print, they usually don’t like it much.

      I think the pope is mostly attempting to set up the materials of the Church in such a way that when the Left becomes disillusioned enough about its own approach and begins to look more seriously at the fine print, they will see some pretty exacting and clarifying teachings. Did he get everything right? No. However, it seems that his overall attempt to frame such a major debate works pretty well.

      I believe that free markets are the best way to organize human economic activity and that they are generally efficient. However, we do not now have free markets. The governments of the world and the behemoth businesses of the world, along with the increasingly corrupt elites that control these organizations, have corrupted almost all activity. You have only to look at China to see how heedless pursuit of economic growth by government apparatchiks and their corrupt private handmaidens destroys the environment and poisons the poor, all for power and “filthy lucre.”

      It appears that the pope is making an error here when he looks at the current world and says that free markets cause damage. This is a common error that virtually everyone makes these days. Free markets are unregulated markets where anyone can transact business with whomever he or she wishes to and in any way desired. We are increasingly in a fascistic world where the government doesn’t own the businesses but essentially controls these businesses through regulation and taxation. This leads to inefficiency, corruption, and environmental degradation, as well as creating conditions that work to hold down the poor even as the poor bear the brunt of the corruption and environmental degradation. By keeping people poor and illiterate, we allow the population to expand because birth rates stay high even as the children cannot find ways to lift themselves out of poverty and so place increasing stress on their local environment or sell their local environment to the highest bidder in desperation.

      I also believe that even if we had free markets, they do not necessarily capture all the impacts of personal economic activity. Such externalities *do* need to be captured and addressed.

      The response to the need to capture externalities so far has been to opt to increase the size and intrusiveness of government to the point where economic activity is reduced. Further, due to the inefficiency and corruption of government bureaucracies, true environmental protection has been actually harmed as well, even as freedom is curtailed and people remain more impoverished than they would otherwise have been.

      The best answer I know of for capturing externalities is to allow the people themselves to develop the Common Law. This was occurring up to the 1960s in the US and would have gotten us to a better way to handle externalities by now, but the Left short-circuited that process in the late 1960s and 1970s. Instead, they turned environmental supervision over to inefficient and corruptible government bureaucracies. They lacked faith in the common people and in the people’s ability to sort it all out inside the Common Law over time. They wanted to empower government. They actually believed (and still believe) that government is “compassionate and fair”. The reality of course is that government is heartless and unaccountable, a cold machine of power.

      If we make it through the Storm, I believe we will see free markets again, as governments will be greatly reduced and their fascistic control mechanisms removed. At that point we will need to work together on the externalities and sort them out properly. This will likely be done through a mechanism such as the Common Law here in the US. The Common Law approach is one of humanity’s greatest inventions, but it is denigrated nowadays. It is essentially a free market-like approach to sorting out harm, which includes economic and environmental degradation.

      If the US and its English forebears do nothing else in the New World to Come but successfully export the Common Law tradition to the rest of the world, we will have done a tremendous service to everyone on the planet.

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  42. Observer says:

    A well balanced critique of “Laudato Si”:

    Let’s Listen To The Pope On Climate

    …….Hyperbole is part of politics. But there seems to be a fairly large disconnect between the criticism of Laudato Si (much of it made prior to the release of the actual text) and the encyclical itself. The actual document is a more measured affair. For one thing, it’s not even really accurate to call it a “climate encyclical.” Most of the document is devoted to other environmental issues (ranging from clean drinking water to biodiversity) or to the proper Christian perspective on the environment generally. Only a small portion of the lengthy encyclical is devoted to climate change per se, and much of what the encyclical does say about climate change is in keeping with the prior statements of John Paul II and Benedict XVI on the issue. The encyclical says that:

    “A very solid scientific consensus indicates that we are presently witnessing a disturbing warming of the climatic system. . . . It is true that there are other factors (such as volcanic activity, variations in the earth’s orbit and axis, the solar cycle), yet a number of scientific studies indicate that most global warming in recent decades is due to the great concentration of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide, methane, nitrogen oxides and others) released mainly as a result of human activity. Concentrated in the atmosphere, these gases do not allow the warmth of the sun’s rays reflected by the earth to be dispersed in space.”

    Read more here:

    http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2015/06/lets-listen-to-the-pope-on-climate

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  43. Torchbearer says:

    Thank you, Janet, for these intentions which I will continue to pray for.

    One of the greatest gifts that God gave us in our humanity was the gift of memories. I would like to gently remind Charlie and all the readers here that whenever your storms become overwhelming and unbearable, try to be still and remember all the times in your past when the Father, Our Lady, His angels, etc. have helped you in troubled times of your life., These experiences are there to help remind us of His everpresent assistance. God is outside of time, so even though to us our troubles have been in the past, to Him they are in the present. So He is always there waiting for us to call upon Him. He never moves. It is comforting to know that He is all-powerful, all-knowing and that he simply IS. That should give us hope in all circumstances.

    Charlie, you have many wonderful & powerful memories with your years of training and your experiences here with this community. They are all there for you to hold onto and help carry you through your storm.

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  44. janet333 says:

    I have just prayed the Prayer of Entrustment for you and your family Charlie. I asked the intercession of St Martin de Tours

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