Same Sex Marriage and the Big Lie

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(Our friend, Dan Lynch, responded to my “Mea Culpa” column with an email this morning which included a…guest column along with this opening line: “I have attached a guest post at the risk of upsetting your readers who would rather read yours...” Man, how can you not love this guy’s swashbuckling panache! If I were with Dan and we were completely surrounded and the situation was completely hopeless, I reckon that would be the moment Dan would turn to me, grin, and say, “Now we’ve got ’em right where we want ’em.” In any case, here is Dan’s Guest Post for the morning. Oh…and don’t miss the Cross in the flag pictured above. – CJ)

Guest Column

By Dan Lynch

Our Lady of America identified herself to Sister Mildred, the mystic, and said, “I am the Immaculate One, Patroness of your land.” She appeared as our Queen wearing her crown, manifesting her Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart and holding out to us the lily of purity.

On September 26, 1956, Our Lady appeared to Sister Mildred and called her children in America to dedicate their lives to her purity. She said:

My child, I entrust you with this message that you must make known to my children in America. I wish it to be the country dedicated to my purity. The wonders I will work will be the wonders of the soul. They must have faith and believe firmly in my love for them. I desire that they be the children of my Pure Heart. I desire, through my children in America, to further the cause of faith and purity among peoples and nations. Let them come with confidence and simplicity, and I, their Mother, will teach them to become pure like to my Heart that their own hearts may be more pleasing to the Heart of my Son.

However, America has not dedicated itself to Our Lady’s purity, as she requested, but has dedicated itself to the idol of “choice” that has brought forth the fruits of legalized contraception, abortion, sodomy, same sex relationships and suicide, all of which are symptoms of what St. John Paul II called a Culture of Death.

The United States Supreme Court legalized same-sex “marriage” and based their decision upon The Big Lie. The Court said, regarding people with same-sex attraction, “Their immutable nature dictates that same-sex marriage is their only real path to this profound commitment.” This is not true. Same-sex attraction is not their nature and it is not “immutable”, which means unchangeable. The Big Lie is that people with same-sex attraction are “born that way” and that “God made them that way.”

Same-sex attraction is not immutable. Only true marriage is immutable and the Court cannot legitimately change true marriage.

Same-sex “marriage” is not, as the Court said “their only real path.” People with same-sex attraction can follow God’s path of repentance, conversion and chastity. The living witnesses who have been healed from same-sex attraction by God’s grace make liars out of the Court.

The truth is that there is no same-sex gene. Same-sex attraction is not biological. It arises from nurture, not nature, together with satanic deception and temptation. The truth is that “God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them. God blessed them, saying: ‘be fertile and multiply.’… That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become one body.” (Genesis 1:27-28; 2:24). This is God’s design for marriage and family and the continuation of the human race. Same-sex “marriage” cannot satisfy God’s design and the Court’s illegitimate and unlawful decision cannot change it.

The Court now “requires a State to license a marriage between two people of the same sex.” This seems to authorize choices for incest and for polygamy, for which claims of legalization are being made.

All of these symptoms of our Culture of Death arise from worshiping the idol of “choice.” As the Court wrote, fundamental liberties “extend to certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy, including intimate choices defining personal identity and beliefs.” This is bizarre and abstract language that is the basis for legalizing all sexual acts outside of God’s design and the killing of the unborn children that result from them. According to God’s design, sexual acts are reserved for a man and a woman, husband and wife, in a marriage in which the acts unite them and are open to the reception of new life.

The Court’s bizarre language is also the basis for its inventions of the new so-called fundamental rights of contraception, abortion, sodomy and same-sex marriage, all or any of which people are now free to choose. So, what was always evil, is now good. However, as the prophet Isaiah said, “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.” (Isaiah 5:20).

So what are we to do?

May we turn to Our Lady of America, our Queen, may we be dedicate ourselves to her purity and practice her devotion; may America be converted and may Tobit’s prophecy be fulfilled in our time by our Culture of Death’s abandonment of “their idols which have deceitfully led them into error.” (Tobit 14:6).

You may learn how to practice Our Lady of America’s devotion here:

May we speak the truth in love about same-sex attraction and same-sex “marriages” and act without unjust discrimination to those in same-sex relationships and to their friends and families who support their immoral choices because of false love. It is not true love to support anyone in immorality. We all want everyone to love, to be loved and to be in loving relationships, but it must be according to God’s design. Those with same-sex attraction may truly love others without engaging in sexual acts outside of God’s design.

Our Lady of America revealed her medal of protection with the ejaculation, “By thy holy and Immaculate Conception, O Mary, deliver us from evil.”

The darkness that is enveloping our country is covering the light of the Christian principles upon which it was founded. Our Lady is the River of Light who can dispel this darkness. “There is hope for your future, says the Lord.” (Jer. 31:17).

“In the shadow of your wings I take refuge till the storms of destruction pass by.” (Psalm 57).

“In the shadow of your wings I take refuge till the storms of destruction pass by.” (Psalm 57).

Dan Lynch Apostolates promoting devotion to

Our Lady of Guadalupe, Jesus King of All Nations, 

Our Lady of America and Saint John Paul II  Visit our website at E-Mail Us at

May Our Lady of Guadalupe keep you under the mantle of her protection and may the Reign of Jesus King of All Nations be recognized in your heart!

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Charlie Johnston is a former newspaper editor, radio talk show host and political consultant. From Feb. 11, 2011 to Aug. 21, 2012, he walked 3,200 miles across the country, sleeping in the woods, meeting people and praying as he went. He has received prophetic visitation all his life, which he has vetted through a trio of priests over the last 20 years, and now speaks publicly about on this site. Yet he emphasizes that we find God most surely through the ordinary, doing the little things we should with faith and fidelity. Hence the name, The Next Right Step. The visitations inform his work, but are not the focus of it. He lives in the Archdiocese of Denver in the United States.
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58 Responses to Same Sex Marriage and the Big Lie

  1. LJD says:

    “The truth is that there is no same-sex gene. Same-sex attraction is not biological. It arises from nurture, not nature, together with satanic deception and temptation.”

    Do you have any evidence to back up this “truth”? I know quite a few gay people and their families who would disagree in the strongest terms! I’m one of them. My brother is gay and has been from the get go. We were all raised in the same 2 parent household (there’s 4 boys altogether). Be very careful before posting such statements because it only causes problems. We can agree on marriage and its role in society, but be careful diagnosing such things.

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    • A Quiet Person says:

      I totally agree with you LJD. I too would like to see evidence to back this statement that homosexuality arises from nurture, not nature. I think it is more complicated than that. Satanic deception may be part of it and likely generational curses as well. Temptation, early woundedness, and confusion can contribute. The ongoing attempt to normalize homosexuality is taking a huge toll. Janet Klasson is wondering about the possible connections between homosexuality and the pill. All of these are factors to consider. Who knows what else is involved? Probably a lot that we do not know about. But to claim that all homosexuality is nurtured could be an unfair and hurtful assumption about a painful situation that no one has all of the answers to.

      I too know of several families that are actively practicing Catholics, raising their families which include a homosexual child. The children I know were not “nurtured” to be homosexual. For whatever reason, yes, they were born that way. And again, using Janet’s example of a child born addicted to drugs because of the mother’s sin. . . it was not meant to be. But it happened anyway. I too wonder sometimes about these things but not for long because the answer as to why these things happen is simple . . . it is because we live in a fallen world.

      How much of anything in the world as it is now is meant to be? We are all wounded, sinful, and not acting at all as the people we were meant to be. We all have our reasons for our brokenness, some obvious, some not. But no matter what our situation is, we are still called to a life of holiness. That includes those with same-sex attraction. Whether it is nature vs nurturing doesn’t change the need to lead a life of holiness for those with same sex attraction any more than it would for anyone else.

      I am in total agreement about marriage being only between one man and one woman. That is the big lie. . . that somehow or another, because same-sex attraction feels natural, then it is OK. However, I am very reluctant to make a blanket statement that all homosexuality is nurtured. If that is the case, then, again, I would like to know what evidence there is to support that claim. We all have opinions about whether it is by nature or nurture, and to what degree. But when it is stated as a fact, I would like other facts to back it up.

      This reminds me of the situation some years back about schizophrenia, that mysterious, devastating mental illness that would just seem to descend upon someone for no reason. No one could figure out what caused it. So, the professional community figured out a answer to that problem. They blamed the mothers for not loving their children enough. I kid you not.

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      • mmbev says:

        Unfortunately, I do not have a site that those who wish can check. None-the-less, one should be able to research this via the Internet. There have been a reasonable (I know, you’s like to know how many – sorry) number of studies into the genetics. Twins were used. Since they carry the same DNA, both twins should be homosexual, not just one. The case study I was most interested in had over 200 twin sets, and the results were that identical twins could be one of each; that is, one with homosexual orientation and one of homosexual orientation. Since this disproves (especially counting the number of studies done in various countries, – same as above) genetic causes, there must be some other reason.

        Charlie is doing the same thing with us and I hope it lodges securely in out brains!

        It is a good number of years since I pursued this information, and these results of studies are not new. In the same way that the percentage of “gays” in the population was a false number (10%), which was repeated and repeated until accepted by the population (a technique used with regard to propagandizing a gullible population). This creation of a suitably large number was also used by the abortion promoters. (Dr Bernard Nathenson was at that particular meeting. The group just picked a suitably large number of back alley abortions so it sounded good.)

        This tactic is well documented and has been used in a large variety of artificial statistics to hoodwink the public into acceptance of a false statement. One does not argue. Just present the statistic or a lie, over and over and over and over, and guess what. (This technique is referred to as “desensitization” and/or “demoralization”.) To see an instance where this has be enacted against people of the Western countries, in which the communist agenda was engaged – reasonably successfully – go to: and Yuri will explain all to you via video. I have listed this website because the stages he lists have been used in various other endeavours to prepare people for the willing acceptance of change. The gay community and the abortion groups have successfully used these techniques as well. Nothing is new under the sun.

        There are occasions when minor abuse results in the victim orienting towards homosexuality. Introduction to sodomy as a minor can result in this occurrence because “the body remembers.” That is, in sexual involvement, especially with “grooming” and “seduction” involved and affection on the part of a minor towards a perpetrator they know who may even be part of the families not easily understood by the victim. The first sexual experiences can be imprinted on the mind and result in how they perceive sex and the pleasure that is a part of that experience prior to establishing a same-sex attraction. The fact, that one of the children in a family has such an orientation means nothing. Each child in a family has a totally different experience. Nor does what I have said mean that all homosexual persons were sodomized as children. It’s just one way that can establish orientation.

        In my own family of five siblings, four had very unhappy, and difficult childhoods, and one had a great childhood. I did not find this out until my mother died. It was never discussed. At mother’s funeral my brother who had been away from home for a good 40 years, asked me if I had been happy, because he knew about the other two. So I asked him back, and had to pull my jaw off the floor when he told me that his childhood had been very happy. It took days for me to absorb this and frankly,I will never understand it.

        If I have understood correctly, a minor whose first sexual introduction is sodomy, because there may be pleasure involved whether the intention of the victim wants this or not, the orientation may be very difficult to over come. Since this is unlikely to even be acknowledged, it is often much later in life that this awareness can even surface.

        And do check out Yuri. We have all been entertained by those ideas. And a good majority …… , well.

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        • mmbev says:

          5th paragraph; line 11 … “prior to establishing an opposite sex attraction”.


        • Mary W. says:

          LIKE it MMBev! Thanks.


        • A Quiet Person says:

          Hi mmbev. I think that much of what you write is true and then some . . . exacerbated by the crazy Hollywood hype to promote and normalization it all, with the help of all the demons unleashed to really rub it in. Wait until the school systems are forced to cram it down our kids throats! And unfortunately, I suspect that the sexual abuse of kids has been terribly under reported. We will never know all of the details of what cause same sex attraction. Studies are good in so far as they help us understand better, but this is a work in progress. There are no totally conclusive studies that can say, “Yes, this is what causes it and beyond a shadow of a doubt, there is absolutely no biological component to this.”

          So, in the meantime I want to be a nonjudgmental voice of support for families who have a member with SSA. Maybe some families are at fault. But maybe not. And for the ones who are heartbroken, confused, scared, lonely, and isolated because the child they love more than anyone in the world still has SSA, I will give them the benefit of the doubt. No one in those families signed up for this.

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          • mmbev says:

            We, as the Body of Christ, need to support the families and the young people facing this problem. We say that a homosexual person has a disordered inclination. Well, I can honestly say that I have a few things that could fill that bill as well. Any sinful inclination could fit that bill.

            Some entries back, a link to Mark Mallett was entered here. It dealt with this issue by video and was called the “Third Way”. It is well worth mentioning again here, because of the truth and compassion it showed, and the conversation that homosexual people expressed.

            It was certainly a way that each of us can learn as well. It’s the best I have seen.

            One of the most frustrating things I have encounter, is when other primary and secondary kids tease and bully a young person calling them “gay” when they are not. I have wondered how many people who establish that orientation experienced this unfortunate teasing/harassing.

            I certainly saw this as an education assistant and I had two brothers experience some of this because they refused to fight others. They always expressed kindness and compassion for bullied victims instead of partaking. They are the two brothers who chose religious vocations. Both became aware of God’s vocational call by five or six years old.

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    • Dan Lynch says:

      Thank you for your advice to “be very careful before posting”. I heeded your advice before you gave it and before I wrote my article. I did not write my article off-the-cuff. I exercised some due diligence and researched the issue of the alleged immutability of same-sex people who engage in sexual acts with one another. I learned that despite the propaganda to the contrary, these people can change and become heterosexual.

      God does not create homosexuals and lesbians, he creates them as man and woman and they become homosexuals and lesbians through their environment, nurture, not nature, and their own free will subject to satanic deception and temptation.
      n “Homosexuality and the Truth”, former homosexuals Sy Rogers & Alan Medinger, both involved in the Exodus Global Alliance, provide the following reference for the contention that homosexuality is not immutable:

      “Dr Reuben Fine, Director for the New York Centre for Psychoanalytic Training, says in his 1987 publication ‘Psychoanalytic Theory, Male and Female Homosexuality: Psychological Approaches’: ‘I have recently had occasion to review the result of psychotherapy with homosexuals, and been surprised by the findings. It is paradoxical that even though politically active homosexual groups deny the possibility of change, all studies from Schrenck-Notzing on have found positive effects, virtually regardless of the kind of treatment used…a considerable percentage of overt homosexuals became heterosexual… If the patients were motivated, whatever procedure is adopted, a large percentage will give up their homosexuality. In this connection, public information is of the greatest importance. The misinformation spread by certain circles that ‘homosexuality is untreatable by psychotherapy’ does incalculable harm to thousands of men and women.’ (pp.84-86)”

      Many activists agree that The Innate-Immutable Argument for their homosexuality and lesbianism has no basis in science.

      You may learn more here:

      Also, I believe that you are doing a great disservice to your brother if you support him in his active homosexuality. Jesus calls us to be signs of contradiction and to prudently stand up for the truth about human sexuality in both word and example as best we are able according to the circumstances. Love the sinner but hate the sin.

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      • A Quiet Person says:

        When you say that , “I believe that you are doing a great disservice to your brother if you support him in his active homosexuality,” I am wondering if I have missed something. No one here has even hinted at supporting someone in his active homosexuality. Everyone here is in agreement (and adamantly so) on the true definition of marriage as between one man and one woman. We are also all in agreement that acting on same sex attraction is gravely sinful.

        Citing a study almost 30 years old seems of questionable value when you are trying to make an absolute statement . . . that ALL homosexuality is nurtured, not by nature. Your point seems further weakened when the study states that, “Many activists agree.” “Many” is very different than “all.” Even within the study . . . “a considerable percentage change,” . . . or that a large percentage will give up their homosexuality, is also weak. Even if a large percentage changes their sexual orientation, that still leaves many remaining with SSA unaccounted for.


      • LJD says:

        No one said anything about supporting the lifestyle. Your referenced study is quite old. Your use of “all” seems to be pretty far off given that there is absolutely no settled science on the issue of nature/nurture arguement. There are plenty of more recent studies that show otherwise on the nature/nurture issue. Your painting all with such broad strokes is off putting to those homosexuals who have even considered the chastity the church calls people to. To say God doesn’t create lesbians and gays is just silly. We live in a fallen world and people are born blind, deaf, mute, and will all sorts of things that are the result of the fallen state of human nature.
        If it doesn’t fall into your particular world view then that is your right to believe as you do, but it is a real impediment to reach out to anyone outside of it with that mentality.


        • Dan Lynch says:

          I apologize that my referenced study was “quite old”, as you wrote.

          Below I reference the recent conclusions that God does not create homosexuals and lesbians, he creates them as man and woman and they become homosexuals and lesbians through their environment, nurture, not nature, and their own free will.

          No fewer than eight major studies from around the world have found homosexuality is not a genetic condition:


          Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council says that numerous, rigorous studies of identical twins have now made it impossible to argue that there is a “gay gene.” If homosexuality were inborn and predetermined, then when one identical twin is homosexual, the other should be, as well.

          Yet one study from Yale and Columbia Universities found homosexuality common to only 6.7 percent of male identical twins and 5.3 percent of female identical twins.

          The low rate of common homosexuality in identical twins – around six percent – is easily explained by nurture, not nature.


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          • Alphonsus says:

            The arguments of nature v. nurture, in my opinion, are irrelevant unless the plan of action varies according to the cause. If the predisposition to homosexuality is genetic, what is the action plan to help the afflicted? If it is nurture, how does it differ? If it is a combination of nature and nurture, what still?

            If a person believes based on scientific evidence that his body is programmed for a particular sin beyond his control, believing that particular sin is natural and God-given, he is wrong. If a person believes based on scientific evidence that his mind has been programmed for a particular sin beyond his control, making that particular sin natural to his interior workings and unavoidable, he is wrong. Both persons are in the same place – hopelessness.

            Every one of us has a persistent sin that seems part of our nature if we look at its history, a sin that may seem hopeless for us to overcome. Even the greatest saints suffered with this.

            Yet, Mercy was born of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the person of Jesus Christ. Mercy Incarnate is the supreme hope for all of us living in this common condition. If not, none of us can be saved from ourselves, we are all doomed. Therefore, mercy must be the action plan for all in sin because the LORD has made it so. This is being Jesus to the sinner and embracing Jesus in the sinner – to love one’s neighbor as one loves oneself.


  2. anthonymullendivineantidote says:

    Yes indeed! And the post on the Eucharist yesterday by Sandy may have been the best post ever by anyone on the site!

    Sent from my iPhone



  3. I have wondered too if the use of the Pill has contributed to the seeming increase in homosexuality. (I say ‘seeming’ because I really think the numbers are quite small overall. They are just very vocal about it and have the Hollywood machine on their side so it seems that it is more prevalent than it is.) Estrogen is found in drinking water and in rivers. It has caused male fish to mutate so that they are producing eggs and have both male and female reproductive organs. Some scientists link it to the increased infertility in men. (See this article: Some of the estrogen comes from other pollutants besides the Pill, but 13 million women in the US taking the pill every day, and whose excreted hormones make it back to the water supply, is not insignificant. Also, I wonder if a woman who uses the Pill has affected the chemistry of her own eggs, thereby affecting her children. Maybe they are “born this way” but that doesn’t mean it is meant to be. Some babies are born addicted to drugs because of a foreign substance ingested by their mothers. These are things I wonder about. May God’s holy will be done. May his kingdom come and come quickly!

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  4. Mick says:

    Thanks for the great article, Dan. By the way, my kids and I wear the medal of Our Lady of America.🙂


  5. Centurion_Cornelius says:

    Grand stuff, Brother Dan! Glad Charlie posted it today.

    P.S. I will stand shoulder to shoulder with each of you in the coming Storm. Count on it.

    Reality check–let’s do a standard “Cost vs. Benefit” analysis, as our SCOTUS jurists, progressives, and other assorted disordered thinkers trot out. (Please listen to this 4 minutes and especially when the crickets are chirping for so-called homosexual “marriage” benefits to society.)

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  6. Bonnie C says:

    Thank you Dan for your clear instruction. God bless you and your mission!

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  7. Mack says:

    That’s a wonderful prayer: “By thy holy and Immaculate Conception, O Mary, deliver us from evil.” I will start using it now.
    The other aspect of this matter is that it will not actually help persons with same-sex attractions. Those usually develop out of some kind of wounding, and acting on those desires does not heal that wound. I think that explains why there is this ferocity we have seen in wanting others not just to accept it but to celebrate it, and ruin those who oppose it, whether bakers, florists, etc.

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    • Dan Lynch says:

      Yes, but through God’s grace their wounds can be healed and they can be brought to heterosexuality. God does not propose the impossible regarding human sexuality and gives us the grace to live it according to his design.

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  8. mirrose says:

    The main Center for Our Lady of America complete information and status and full history which includes ALL of the messages without alteration is here (wonderful meditations under “What’s New”):


    • Dan Lynch says:

      There is no “main center” for the devotion to Our Lady of America. The devotion is in the public domain and may be promoted by anyone. Our apostolate provides the only book on the devotion and all of the devotional materials revealed by Our Lady, including, as you wrote, “ALL of the messages without alteration.”

      You may find us here:


  9. Judith says:

    Glad you took the “risk”, Dan, with the beautiful words about Our Lady of America. I’ve always wondered [sometimes uncharitably] why our bishops refused heaven’s request. What’s not to like about dedicating ourselves to purity of body, mind, heart and soul within the Immaculate Heart of our Mother. The devil’s in the details. I noticed it was around the time we kicked prayer out of our schools and the start if the sexual revolt. We thought we were so “cute” and so free.

    Charlie, I, too, have look for your posts. Mark Mallett’s, too. Then I remind myself I should be looking for God “posts” and hanging on to His word. He alone is Savior, though I believe He is using you and many others to strengthen our faith and resolve,and giving us a place of clearing in this “fog of war. So, let us take a deep breath!

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    • Judith says:

      As a further note, I was wandering through the blog site today and checked out “COMMENTS”. Charlie, your response to Jane Bosman [Oct 2014] is exactly why your blog, not just your postings, and other sites as well, are God’s guiding hand for us. He knows we need His encouragement through human voices.

      Jane, having lived through the hostilities of Desert Storm, wrote encouragingly…”we can do it, God leads, God disposes perfectly.”

      You reply,,,”we can adapt quickly and our ties to and support for each other are our most important life line in times of great trial.”

      Words on my heart as I thought about all this and Dan’s post -we don’t go through this alone. Amen and Amen.

      Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, I love you, please save souls!

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      • Judith says:

        Another thought from the heart: Don’t look back. In other words, don’t long for the ‘good old days’. Look UP-keep your eyes [heart] on heaven. Seems like the next right step.

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    • Dan Lynch says:

      We need to pray and fast for our bishops to receive the grace to respond to Our Lady of America’s request to solemnly process and display her statue in the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception for her promised safeguard of our country.
      You may sign our respectful petition to them to do so here:

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  10. Kris says:

    Dear Dan, How can anyone compete with a puppy like that? LOL!!!

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  11. Dionna says:

    WOW! Dan has said it so perfectly! Come Holy Spirit!

    Please Dear Lord-bring us the Bishops we need to accomplish Our Lady’s Request-to save our nation!

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    • mirrose says:

      The Bishop with the authority to study, set up a commission, etc. for OLOA is the local bishop of Toledo. Always was and continues to be so. And the bishops as a whole have noted that the Bishop of Toledo is the authority for such a decision before they as a whole can act. As far as I know such a study has yet to begin due to the interference of individuals who have held up the devotion in court now for around 8 years. Sad. There have been pronouncements that have only confused the faithful due to their misinformation. Thus there has as yet been no official approval in order to allow OLOA’s intentions to move forward. As the good Bishop Leibold (the spiritual director of the seer, Sr. Mildred), now deceased, warned…..there would be attempts by the “powerful” in the future who would try to push forward the devotion with force for their own agendas…..and that that has to be resisted since our Lady wished for her intentions to be first born in the heart and understood in the heart of each person….not just a parade of a statue….or nothing would change re: purity. It calls for conversion and the entire intention from heaven to be understood in the heart first. So then, it isn’t the Bishops to fault but rather the controversy that has been intentionally stirred up and now prolonged so that any reasonable study is thwarted by all the biased publicity. Bishop Leibold always abided himself by the authority of the local Toledo Bishop and never wished to have it implied that he did not cooperate at all times with that bishop of authority or that he gave any official approval himself. This fact was more recently confirmed by the Cincinnati Archbishop. Unfortunately that impression was implied by certain statements of authorities who have admitted they had no authority to give that impression!!


  12. Serena J says:

    The decision by America to allow same sex ‘marriage’ highlights the moral and spiritual bankruptcy of secular society. I agree with Dan Lynch that marriage is between one man and one woman and is part of God’s design and purpose for humanity. The Church must be a haven and a model for the family, but also a place where all feel at home, including those with same-sex attraction. (SSA).
    Following are a few of Dan’s statements and my thoughts on them:
    “The Big Lie is that people with same-sex attraction are “born that way” and that “God made them that way.”
    How does he know that God hasn’t made ‘them’ that way? Indeed, many people with SSA would rather not be born this way, if they could. It is not a choice for them.

    “People with same-sex attraction can follow God’s path of repentance, conversion and chastity.”
    To have same-sex attraction is not a sin. If one actively engages in this lifestyle then that is sinful and surely they must repent of it, but if they have the tendency, that in and of itself is not sinful.

    “The living witnesses who have been healed from same-sex attraction by God’s grace…”
    Granted, things like Reparative Therapy have helped some people with SSA to diminish/’change’ their orientation, but there are countless others who have gone through the process and still haven’t successfully changed their orientation. Does that mean they haven’t prayed hard enough, or they aren’t as good as those who have successfully ‘changed’?

    “The truth is that there is no same-sex gene. Same-sex attraction is not biological. It arises from nurture, not nature, together with satanic deception and temptation.”
    Recent research in this area has highlighted that there may be evidence that SSA may be biological. Having a pre-disposition to homosexuality may just be like any other pre-dispostions that can be found in the genes, like alcoholism and depression.

    “May we speak the truth in love about same-sex attraction and same-sex “marriages” and act without unjust discrimination to those in same-sex relationships and to their friends and families who support their immoral choices because of false love.”

    I agree immoral choices should not be condoned, but to state that the love felt between two people in a same- sex relationship is false is very condescending. Many Christains with SSA do not agree or live by immoral choices. Some do have genuine, chaste loving relationships in accordance with Church teaching.
    It’s important that whilst we rightly condemn the actions of the Supreme Court that we don’t fail in our duty to reach out in a positive way to those with SSA. Regarding vocations in the Church much is said about vocations to the priesthood and religious life and the importance of marriage as a vocation, but there is never mention of the importance and value of the single life. Maybe if this vocation could be given more prominence, then maybe those with SSA might feel they have a place and role within the Church. But telling people with SSA that it’s not in their nature and they are satanically deceived is not a way of reaching out to those most in need of conversion nor of promoting the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman. Defending marriage whilst being condescending to those with SSA is not helpful either.
    I pray for the out pouring of God’s Holy Spirit on the upcoming synod on the family and may we do our best to be a sign of hope to others on the fringes of society and the Church.


    • Dan Lynch says:

      Please see my post above about alleged immutability and about true healing.

      Same-sex attraction in itself is not immoral, I meant those who are same-sex attracted who act out of their attraction and perform immoral sexual acts with one another.

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    • mirrose says:

      It is more likely to gain at least some comprehension of the several contributing factors in forming SSA by reading those who actually have a wealth of experience with treating such individuals and doing so with understanding and with moral principles like Dr. Fitzgibbons. I heard several interviews with him years ago and found his explanations helpful when one comes from mostly ignorance on the subject….if only the culture and even his own medical societies did not fight true research and treatment with cowardly PC caving to the desire of going along to get along and the desire to “be liked”.

      Much to be learned from this educational piece:

      The Origins and Healing of Homosexual Attractions
      by Richard Fitzgibbons, M.D.

      And he emphasizes early detection of signals by families so that proper modeling by the same sex parent of the child in question continues even when the more common ways of connecting….sports for boys and their fathers for example…..are disrupted for several reasons.

      And here is his letter to the bishops at the time of the scandal:

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      • A Quiet Person says:

        mirrose, thank you for this information. It is valuable. This filled in many of the missing pieces of my understanding.


    • A Quiet Person says:

      Serena, I totally, totally agree with you. I think the main point of everything, EVERYTHING now is to save souls (my own included). There really isn’t even time for more research to say definitively what causes SSA. The mission is to reach out in a positive way, without assigning blame or guilt for SSA in and of itself, validating people for who they are, refusing to tell people what is it that YOU think they should or should not be feeling, while still calling sin a sin when needed.

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      • Alphonsus says:

        Quiet, I couldn’t agree more with you about the main point now being saving souls. That has been very much on my heart for a while. Human civilization needs a complete Christian re-evangelization. It’s almost now like Christ never came and the Gospel had not been preached during the past 2000 years.

        I’ve been wondering how to begin – what the message of this re-evangelization should be – and then I heard the Gospel acclamation at Wednesday’s Mass. It hit me like a thunderbolt and I nearly withered under the hearing of it.

        “The Kingdom of God is at hand:
        repent and believe in the Gospel.”

        I feel we must begin again as if from the very beginning with the words of Jesus Christ when He began His public ministry, and also with His Great Commission after His resurrection. Today we must begin, and then tomorrow we begin again, and so forth, as if nothing has been done yet. And I feel also that our example for this is to be found in St. Francis of Assisi.

        There seems to be no safe place in the world now for Christianity or Christians. We are very much like the infant Jesus when He was hunted by Herod. He had only one safe place – in the arms of our Blessed Mother and under the careful protection of St. Joseph. They are our great patrons of safety in these time, I feel. And not coincidentally they are, with Jesus, the Holy Family.

        God bless you.

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        • A Quiet Person says:

          Alphonsus, thanks for your response. That image of us being like the infant Jesus as they were escaping to Egypt is very helpful to me. And yes, it does seem like we are at the beginning to me too. And on top of it there is so much else to contend with (like, what am I going to pack in my bug-out bag?) that I am tempted to lose the focus of what we are doing here in the first place. That is what is so nice regarding this site, that we can remind each other about what we are about and that gospel message sure said it, “The Kingdom of God is at hand: repent and believe in the Gospel.”


        • ann says:

          Alphonsus–I LIKE your post (don’t know how to hit the like button and make it work) and I particularly think the eloquent closing of your comment about being hunted by Herod and finding safety in the arms of our Blessed Mother and St. Joseph is the Holy Spirit speaking through you. Thank you.


    • vicardwm says:

      I would say that we do know that God didn’t make them that way. God would not make someone homosexual or with tendencies to alcoholism or any kind of sin. However, original sin and the mess we’ve created with the environment do allow unhealthy mutations to creep in.

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      • Serena J says:

        Id say its a consequence of a broken, sinful humanity, brought about by original sin. Even death wasn’t part of God’s initial plan for us but it happened. Thus people can and do have homosexual tendencies, alcoholism running in families etc. Just like people inherit certain traits, so too can we ‘inherit’ the sins of our fathers. True God’s intention was not to ‘make’ someone more prone to a certain dispostion, but because of sin this is what has happened.

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  13. Murt. says:
    How does the legalization of same-sex marriage affect the Church?

    Something I was reading recently which I thought you may like to give the once over. I don’t really know anything about him as I only came across him lately. He does in my view have a few thoughts worthy of mention but alas for myself it is rather heavy reading, much less understanding. He does ask some interesting questions I thought as we are now seemingly told to be ashamed of who we are as followers of The Christ and His Word.

    As usual Charlie you do with this as you will and my regards.

    Godspeed, Murt.

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  14. Mrs. B says:

    Charlie, thanks for all your posts and guests posts! I would like to meet you when you come to Newark, nj. Is there a way for you to add me to your list for contacting on the time and place you are meeting everyone? Please pass my email on to them.
    Mrs. B


  15. lillibeth says:

    Hi all,
    Thanks for another interesting article.
    Something to think about:
    “I am the Immaculate One, Patroness of your land.” She appeared as our Queen wearing her crown, manifesting her Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart and holding out to us the lily of purity.”

    It’s not too much of a coincidence that in 1956 we see the start of the “rock n roll culture”, the prelude to the Sexual Revolution, the drug and pornography explosions, etc- the Culture of Death.

    The significance of Our Lady’s appearance struck my heart. It is almost as if she is saying “I am sorrowful due to your lack of purity”. And her request for Americans to dedicate themselves to purity now seems perfectly logical. Had her request been heeded would we see the present ills in society? Perhaps, but certainly not to the extent where broken families are the norm and the gradual deterioration of societal norms, law and order and the resulting drain of govt revenue will eventually bring down the whole country.

    Please don’t get me wrong- I am not being self-congratulatory because I live elsewhere. All Westerners are facing the same problems, but America’s is more pitiable because she “has been given more”, but “more was also expected” from her. We are all reaping what had been sown in America. She was the “light to the world”, but the Evil One (whose name is “bringing of light” or “light bearer”) has used her light to promote his own agenda and bring in spritual darkness.

    We now have a cancer that has spread worldwide and it is too late for surgery to remove the tumour- there are too many of them. A miraculous healing is required- Come Holy Spirit! Renew the face of the earth, so that all the Lord God had intended for us may come to pass. Amen.

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    • Dan Lynch says:

      Our Lady of America is still holding out to us her Lily of Purity and asking us to take it up and practice her devotion. There is hope for healing for the sexual atrocities of America.

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  16. Barbara Dore says:

    Question: “What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah?”

    Answer: The biblical account of Sodom and Gomorrah is recorded in Genesis chapters 18-19. Genesis chapter 18 records the Lord and two angels coming to speak with Abraham. The Lord informed Abraham that “the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous.” Verses 22-33 record Abraham pleading with the Lord to have mercy on Sodom and Gomorrah because Abraham’s nephew, Lot, and his family lived in Sodom.

    Genesis chapter 19 records the two angels, disguised as human men, visiting Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, “Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, ‘Where are the men who came to you tonight?

    Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'”

    The angels then proceed to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver. Lot and his family flee the city, and then “the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah — from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities…”

    In light of the passage, the most common response to the question “What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah?” is that it was homosexuality. That is how the term “sodomy” came to be used to refer to anal sex between two men, whether consensual or forced. Clearly, homosexuality was part of why God destroyed the two cities.

    The men of Sodom and Gomorrah wanted to perform homosexual gang rape on the two angels (who were disguised as men).

    At the same time, it is not biblical to say that homosexuality was the exclusive reason why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were definitely not exclusive in terms of the sins in which they indulged.

    Read more:


    • mmbev says:

      Your comment leaves me a bit confused. I went to the link and read it.

      It says, ….”it does appear to be the primary reason for the destruction of the cities.”

      and further on, “While Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of many other horrendous sins, homosexuality was the reason God poured fiery sulphur on the cities.”

      The author agrees with the fact that God caused the destruction of the cities because of the sin of homosexuality. He agrees with the usual and constant understanding that the sin of the behaviour of homosexuality was the cause of the destruction.

      So have I missed something?


  17. Murt. says:

    Maybe I’m missing something here in my simplicity of this same sex marriage. It is only a word after all which the so called happy community need to validate their way of life. Even the word gay they have polluted as if it were such a happy occasion. Just another buzz word to keep the foolish mind occupied. The people who teach us how to use their chosen words have always been alive and well in society. Perhaps if we had paid as much attention to The Ten Commandments, not be fooled by such like as our modern eleven commandments of such as The Frankfurt School we may have been better schooled.

    Nurture over nature though by our modern condition over a mere few decades seems to have left the school leavers of life rightly confused as per the teachers we were conditioned to listen to. It has been quite the plan in my country for many decades as I noticed something wrong here with our so called modern thinkers of but four generations in my own family. I seem to have lost a lot of fish-scales over time as I try to swim up stream all the time with people listening to society and it’s media talking elite. I like many others about have those happy people in my family which I meet at family gatherings, funerals, and visits to siblings and the like. I don’t think I am intolerant, mean, un loving, I think having a liking to trying to understand the truth would leave me nude of knowingly being a hurtful sort, but I will speak my mind which often leaves things unspoken of in my company.

    I will be outspoken also when people ask me questions as to such things as homosexuality, sex as a hobby, or just bored sexual deviance as mammon leaves time in the palms of those with too much worldly wealth. I must have learned most of what I know going through life from observation. Lately from trying to read The Bible, The Word being my most recent conundrum. A small observation on This Word has me to understand of the fact of homosexuality never being a marriage in the true sense of This Word. That Holy Order was given as A Sacrament which will never be made anything other than which it was given. Those who have been guiding us through social nurture through media in all it’s form for so many years are well aware of this little problem they have with His Word.

    We did have a republic here some time ago, just like you people in The US had at one time. Our republic though was founded on a strong form of Christian belief, family of a central unit of society, unlike The US which was based loosely on Christianity. The demise of my republic along with its Christian values was no mean accident. Clerical abuse, serfdom by those who control, emigration of those who thought different, the scores of excess to requirement, any number of things really which makes God’s creation not fitting into the plan. The media here was always and ever the most efficient tool to nurture thought in the degradation of my own society as family values were to be broken down and cast aside for our new world.

    There is a plan in all this I have to suppose of which we have to weary of the long sorrow which faces us. There are but two players in this plan which we have to contend with, only one of those will be the victor in all this. Alas I have no easy answer to any of this other than to try to sit on the fence as did The Aged, Aged Man as the answers trickled through his head. Try to keep The Word there. Try to learn what it was He would have us do. Speaking little whilst trying to listen lots may well be a way to try to get to grips as we observe if we think are in a wrong place. Be bold and not proud as you proclaim that which you believe to be true. The Sacrament of marriage is but one of many given us to mull about on. Alas I have to agree with Charlie on this one….Love and do that which you think is right, otherwise step back and as ever pray in your own heart. Always forgive and pray for mercy for those we think are in error. You are in this for the long haul so try to get your own cardinal points in order and try to have a safe journey.

    Godspeed, Murt.


    • charliej373 says:

      Murt, my friend, I am coming to enjoy the folksy, but hard-earned wisdom in your comments more and more. Alas, I do not know which country you are from. Now if it would in any way endanger you or potentially bring you unwanted attention, leave it alone…but I would love to know what your native land is.


  18. A Quiet Person says:

    Charlie, I have a few questions about people with same-sex attraction. First the article by Dr. Fitzgibbons provided by mirrose fleshed out for me many of the issues that can contribute to this and how therapy can not only help but change a person’s orientation. One question though is, there are some denominations of Christianity that actively avoid therapy even to the point of discouraging people seeking it for anything. What hope is there for these people?

    Also, my daughter goes to a Catholic high school and the deacon who teaches theology teaches that SSA is biological, people are just born that way, and thus are called to live a chaste life. That seems to be the teaching around here. She also has a friend who goes to that school who is gay. Without meaning to sound judgmental, his appearance and demeanor would suggest that immediately to anyone. However, he has embraced it while vowing to live a chaste life. I guess my point is, serious Catholics are not on the same page here at all. I understand how the information about therapy could be hidden from society at large, but how is it that Catholics do not even agree when this is such a huge divisive topic?

    Finally, I recently expressed concern about those of us who survive the Storm because I anticipate that we are going to be so severely bruised and traumatized. You responded with such hopeful words – that there would be great healing that comes as a part. of the Storm. So here is my biggest question of all – do you think that good, God-seeking people with SSA will be healed . . . healed of all of the pain that may have triggered development of this such as sexual abuse, poor body image, lack of good role models in parents, . . . in addition to whatever biology may (or may not) play into this ?


    • charliej373 says:

      In this world, we will always have our personal crosses to carry. But that will be a lot easier to bear as we see we are not alone – and we have people encouraging us rather than inflaming our disorders. Solidarity is so very important. I have already seen it on my visits – people who thought they were isolated look around the room and I can see the thought rising in their eyes that, holy cow, we are not alone…there are a lot of us, right here where I live already. Catholics are not going to be on the same page on a lot of scientific, economic and political issues. In part, it is the messy way we progressively find a way to deal most effectively with such things – by fits and starts and often going up blind alleys. Don’t disdain the blind alleys too much – we often learn things from them that are going to be vital later – even though they are not the answer. But in these times, that normal process is inflamed by the satan who seeks to divide us in any way possible.


      • Eric says:

        You didn’t really answer the question Charlie.🙂

        This is a very real question to some of us who wonder what life will be like on the other side of the storm if we make it.

        And as an aside, as with any controversial issues, it is very easy to participate in an abstract debate on the topic until it strikes close to home. Then you are faced with actually having to try to live the gospel, which is not the easy path.

        God bless all here.


        • charliej373 says:

          Fair enough, Eric, but I have answered it as much as I am willing to right now. I have often told the Lord and His angel that they have not answered as I want or given me sufficient information…and they usually make me just muddle along anyway, waiting to tell me in their own good time or keeping me aware until I see for myself. So yes, I know sometimes I imitate my Master in maddening ways as well as soothing ones. A big part of me sympathizes with you because I have felt the same way so often. Another part rather gleefully thinks, “Welcome to my world.” I have said what I am willing to say on the matter for now…and you will have to trust in the ways the Lord intends to unfold. (More than a few times, the Lord has told me something I find flatly unbelievable. I am far along enough now that I go ahead and do what I should, but sullenly think, “Fine, I will do as you direct, but I find it hard, almost impossible to believe or understand – and I’m not going to think about it.” Again, welcome to my world.

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          • Eric says:

            Thanks for the response. I respect that. I just figured I would see if further information was forthcoming! Appreciate the work you are doing in these challenging times.


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