On Communion for Open Apostates

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(I had foolishly considered holding back this piece from Dan Lynch until after the election was past or postponed. The more I thought about it, though, the madder I got that the anti-God progressives are starkly waging war against the faith and many of us are still trying to be nice. Hillary Clinton says the churches MUST change on certain things, such as abortion, gay marriage and transgenderism or be banned from polite society. Christians in America are being fined, bankrupted, deprived of their livelihood, and sometimes jailed for simply refusing to participate in what is directly contrary to their faith. Historically, those who publicly and flagrantly defy the non-negotiable fundamentals of the Catholic faith have publicly ex-communicated themselves. For Tim Kaine to continue to publicly defy the faith while claiming the mantle of it to win votes is a desecration – and I am embarrassed that I thought to hold back even as they try to destroy us in order to avoid giving offense. Beyond that, to act as if nothing is wrong is to confirm Kaine in his flagrant error, endangering his soul and making us participants in the damage to him. Here, then, is Dan’s piece.-CJ)

By Dan Lynch

Virginia Senator Tim Kaine is the Democratic Party’s candidate for Vice President. He is also a Catholic.

As a senator, he has received 100% ratings from both Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Rights League against a zero rating from the National Right to Life Committee.

Mr. Kaine also suggested to a leading homosexual lobbying group at its fundraising dinner that the Catholic Church would evolve its teaching against so-called same-sex “marriage” just as he did, and that his faith justifies his support for same-sex “marriage.”

Bishop Thomas J. Tobin of the Diocese of Providence, Rhode Island wrote the following in a July 23 post on Facebook:

“VP Pick, Tim Kaine, a Catholic?

Democratic VP choice, Tim Kaine, has been widely identified as a Roman Catholic. It is also reported that he publicly supports ‘freedom of choice’ for abortion, same-sex marriage, gay adoptions, and the ordination of women as priests. All of these positions are clearly contrary to well-established Catholic teachings; all of them have been opposed by Pope Francis as well.

Senator Kaine has said, ‘My faith is central to everything I do.’ But apparently, and unfortunately, his faith isn’t central to his public, political life.”

Should Holy Communion be distributed to Senator Kane while he advocates for public policy contrary to Church teaching or does this violate Canon 915 and is it public scandal that may bring judgment upon his soul?

Canon 915 of Church law mandates that those “obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.” In his letter to U.S. bishops on the subject, Cardinal Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI, unambiguously confirmed that Holy Communion should be denied “in the case of a Catholic politician… consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws.” 

Cardinal Ratzinger also wrote, when “the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, ‘the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it’. This decision, properly speaking, is not a sanction or a penalty. Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgment on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.”

Moreover, regardless of Canon 915, receiving Holy Communion in such circumstances constitutes a sacrilege.

Eucharistic sacrilege means to treat the Holy Eucharist unworthily and is a grave sin because in this sacrament the true Body of Christ is made substantially present for us. (Catechism of the Catholic Church No. 2120). St. Paul wrote, “Whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily sins against the body and blood of the Lord…. That is why many among you are sick and infirm, and why so many are dying. If we were to examine ourselves, we would not be falling under judgment in this way.” (1 Cor. 11, 27-31; Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1385).

Pope John Paul II in his Apostolic Letter, The Church of the Eucharist, reaffirmed this teaching. He said, “I reaffirm that in the Church there remains in force, now and in the future, the rule by which the Council of Trent gave concrete expression to the Apostle Paul’s stern warning when it affirmed that, in order to receive the Eucharist in a worthily manner, ‘one must first confess one’s sins, when one is aware of mortal sin.’” (No. 36).

It appears that Senator Kaine is “obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin”, within the meaning of Canon 915, and that Holy Communion should be denied him on that ground as well as on the further grounds to prevent Eucharistic sacrilege and to prevent judgment upon himself and scandal to the faithful. As Cardinal Burke wrote concerning situations like this, it is not a punishment to be denied Holy Communion, but it is a discipline “in order to respect the holiness of the Sacrament, to safeguard the salvation of the soul of the party presenting himself to receive Holy Communion, and to avoid scandal.”

This is not a political issue, it is a spiritual issue to prevent sacrilege to the Eucharist and to promote reverence and protection of the body and blood of Jesus Christ really and substantially present in the Eucharist; to prevent judgement upon the soul of Senator Tim Kaine and to prevent scandal to the faithful where otherwise it might appear that it is acceptable to be a promoter of the Culture of Death while remaining in union with the body and blood of Jesus Christ.

However, neither Senator Kaine’s pastor nor his Bishop, Francis DiLorenzo, have stated that he should be refused the distribution of Holy Communion.

As Cardinal Burke, rightly observed: “No matter how often a Bishop or priest repeats the teaching of the Church regarding procured abortion, if he stands by and does nothing to discipline a Catholic who publicly supports legislation permitting the gravest of injustices and, at the same time, presents himself to receive Holy Communion, then his teaching rings hollow. To remain silent is to permit serious confusion regarding a fundamental truth of the moral law.”

Please sign the Petition to Bishop DiLorenzo that under the provisions of Canon 915, and on the grounds to prevent Eucharistic sacrilege, public scandal and judgment upon Senator Tim Kane, to publicly declare that if Senator Kaine with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, as Cardinal Ratzinger wrote, “the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it.”

St. Michael the Archangel said, “Let souls turn to me for renewed devotion to Our Lord in this Blessed Sacrament! He must be properly adored, loved, thanked, praised and worshiped in this the Most Glorious Sacrament. Let souls call upon me whenever sacrileges and abominations are being committed against the Most High God in this Sacrament of His Love. I promise to put to flight His every enemy. GREAT is my zeal for the glory of God!” (Jesus King of All Nations Devotion, Journal 86).

So, as St. Michael counseled, we should call upon him “whenever sacrileges are being committed against the Most High God in the sacrament of His love.” The sacrament that he refers to is the Eucharist and one of the greatest sacrileges against it is the reception of the Eucharist by those in the state of mortal sin.

Please sign the Pledge to Offer Reparation for Sacrilegious Communions.

Please copy and paste the cover letter below in an email to Bishop DiLorenzo. Then copy and paste my article beneath the cover letter and send the email and, to ensure that he receives it, please print both and mail them to him at the addresses below.

Email: bishopdilorenzo@richmonddiocese.org

Mailing address:  Most Reverend Bishop Francis DiLorenzo, Catholic Diocese of Richmond, 7800 Carousel Lane, Richmond, VA, 23294

Dear Bishop DiLorenzo,

Please read the article below by Dan Lynch entitled Should Holy Communion Be Distributed to Vice Presidential Candidate Tim Kaine?

Under the provisions of Canon 915, and on the further grounds to prevent Eucharistic sacrilege, to prevent scandal to the faithful and judgment upon Senator Tim Kaine, I respectfully petition you to publicly declare that if Senator Tim Kaine with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, as Cardinal Ratzinger wrote, “the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it.” (Please see https://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/cdfworthycom.HTM).

I further petition you to follow the good example of Bishop Chrysostom. Bishop St. John Chrysostom told his priests, “Though a captain or a governor, nay, even one adorned with the imperial crown, approach [the table of the Lord] unworthily, prevent him; you have greater authority than he . . . Beware lest you excite the Lord to wrath, and give a sword instead of food. And if a new Judas should approach the Communion, prevent him. Fear God, not man. If you

fear man, he will treat you with scorn; if you fear God, you will appear venerable even to men.”

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely in Christ,

[Your name]

 

About charliej373

Charlie Johnston is a former newspaper editor, radio talk show host and political consultant. From Feb. 11, 2011 to Aug. 21, 2012, he walked 3,200 miles across the country, sleeping in the woods, meeting people and praying as he went. He has received prophetic visitation all his life, which he has vetted through a trio of priests over the last 20 years, and now speaks publicly about on this site. Yet he emphasizes that we find God most surely through the ordinary, doing the little things we should with faith and fidelity. Hence the name, The Next Right Step. The visitations inform his work, but are not the focus of it. He lives in the Archdiocese of Denver in the United States.
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233 Responses to On Communion for Open Apostates

  1. Tom Kuipers says:

    Thank God for those of our Bishops who are standing up and strong proclaiming Truth, such as Bishop Olmsted of Phoenix who published this Catholic Voting Guide:
    https://www.catholicvote.org/yes-bishop-olmsted-really-just-said-this-to-pro-choice-catholic-politicians/

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  2. roses1sb says:

    I signed the petition…..this looks like to me that politicians are making them self’s out to be ordained to change catholic doctrine and teaching of the church…..they are not the pope and should be held accountable for such beliefs and trying to change church teaching to their own belief……..I am glad some bishops are saying something and we need more to stand up to them and stop the abuse of receiving holy communion while believing this way and trying to make it their new law….sad times we live in……but God is in control

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  3. BD says:

    Hmmm. There is a certain current VP as well as certain members of Congress that should at a minimum, be denied Holy Communion as well. That goes for kaine too. However I am not at all convinced that such a denial of the Sacraments to these perverted individuals would change their public stance on abortion, gay marriage and transgenderism, but it is the right thing for the Church to do.

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  4. sarah says:

    I need to calm down and read your whole post. I just read where the Bush’s are out in force to support Hillary Clinton. I feel betrayed as a Christian conservative. I just heard my Catholic father in law who has in past times been on the church council tell me how much he likes Caine. I heard you speak in San Antonio. You said something that very much rings true with my spirit; that even if God might give America another chance and Trump might have a Saul moment on the road to Damascus, it would actually be better for our nation to go through the storm.

    How can Catholics be so blind? Please Lord Jesus open my spiritual eyes to my own blindness!

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    • charliej373 says:

      In fairness to the Bushes, they are NOT out in full force supporting Clinton. This is all based on a credible, but unconfirmed report that George Bush Sr. said he was going to vote for Clinton and because one of George W’s daughters was seen at a Clinton fundraiser overseas. I have been at Democratic fundraisers before…mainly to garner information and to exchange social niceties.

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      • sarah says:

        I apologize; I shouldn’t have said full force. You are man of truth. Thank you.

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      • theresa323 says:

        I did see the photograph of the Bush’s and the Obama’s at the opening of the new African American museum, and Mrs. Obama had her arm around President Bush, everyone smiling.. Laura Bush and Barbara Bush were always for abortion… I did hours of telephone work for George’s campaign, he was pro-life. This photograph is very disappointing…
        One thing the Lord is showing us, regardless of which Party is in office, there is much corruption.
        Also at the museum there is mention of Anita Hill, but nothing of Chief Justice Clarence Thomas. That is so telling.

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  5. johnmcfarm says:

    Courage is what is needed in these truly evil times. We must strive to uphold the faith, God, and family.

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  6. Fred says:

    Charlie-

    I know that there has been an ongoing debate for years now about what to do with wayward Catholic politicians (of which there are many) who refuse to follow, and often actively oppose, Church teachings in their public political lives. I have debated this issue many times over the last 15+ years. I always believed that the Church needed to take a more active role in pushing back against these folks because what they were doing was, in essence, heresy and could lead to confusion among faithful Catholics- not to mention that if the Church hierarchy did not stand up vocally on these matters it would undermine any efforts among the laity to make a difference in the world. The prevailing “wisdom” among the Church hierarchy, however, has been to basically look the other way out of some misguided notion of pastoral care- with a few notable dissenters. A more cynical explanation would be that many of our bishops who lean left put their own politics ahead of the requirements of their faith. However, whether we are talking about “politically leftist” bishops or “Neville Chamberlain” bishops, the result is the same: no action, more confusion, more heresy.

    Well, that approach has been a disaster for all of us who care about the direction of our culture/society and who believe that the Church’s teachings are worth much more than mere lip-service from our shepherds. There is no doubt that the hearts of the lay faithful have grown cold and disinterested and that our world continues to suffer from the effects of this lack of faith in the form of abortion, gay marriage, transgender advocacy, etc.- all outrages against Divine love. But, I lay a significant part of the blame for that at the feet of the bishops who have steadfastly refused to stand up to politicians within their flocks who fan the flames of these evils in our culture while claiming to be “devout” Catholics. It takes neither a rocket scientist nor a canonized saint to see the problems inherent in simply doing nothing in the face of outright mockery by these so-called Catholic politicians. It is simply mind-boggling to me and obviously a further sign of our times that this open defiance is permitted to continue essentially unchecked.

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    • charliej373 says:

      I don’t begrudge any authorities trying diplomacy and reconciliation for a time. But there also comes a time when you must fully stand when your diplomacy is only reaping more defiance and rebellion. If Tim Kaine, Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden (among others) want to follow another faith, I wish them well, but it is time to state the obvious truth: they are NOT Catholic.

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      • rkirker says:

        Amen!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Dissension. Division.

        Fred makes some good points, but, while the Bishop has ultimate authority, we have entrusted our authority to our Priests and Pastors. And there we meet more dissension and division than imagined.

        I have mentioned before that I have approached and do approach fellow Bishops about certain politicians and their duty. The constant reply that I receive is: “We are in dialogue.”

        “For how long?”

        Without denying or impugning the Role of the Holy Spirit, I question the integrity of the process at times in Electing Bishops. How the names get on the list presented. I think many Priests and Bishops alike often say to themselves: What? Him? The Savvy before the Holy, it seems too often.

        Sadly, that gut reaction proves right in hearing people from those Dioceses later.

        I do not begrudge the Savvy the need for being savvy–in fact one needs a good administrative and business sense lest a Bishop waste the resources entrusted to him:

        “Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves.” – Mt 10:16

        (Also confer Lk 16:9 And I say to you: Make unto you friends of the mammon of iniquity; that when you shall fail, they may receive you into everlasting dwellings.)

        But the Savvy overestimate themselves too often and forget the “be ye simple as doves” too often. “Let your yes mean yes and your no mean no.” – Mt 5:27

        That does not imply rigidity. It entails integrity.

        Integrity.

        I don’t doubt that many of you reading this hear that word and think of integrity internally, instead of thinking of the external ramifications of that word in all of its nuances.

        Integrity of being a father. The integrity of being a mother. A brother. A sister. &tc.

        Holding a family together. Holding a community together.

        Then imagine the need for integrity in being a Priest and then a Bishop.

        Does this Priest, whose name has been put forward, have true integrity or does he merely have the air of integrity from being so savvy?

        Then there is the role of the Nominee (and I always hearken back to St. Catherine of Siena, the root of humility is self-knowledge).

        Would that the Nominee would have the integrity to say, just as any Seminarian presenting himself to Holy Orders, when the call comes from the Apostolic Nuncio, not “I am not worthy”, but “Trust me, I really am not worthy and would damage the flock as I lack the certain qualities and constant desire for holiness, integrity and authenticity and I do not presume the Holy Spirit to heal me” (or perhaps to say, “Please call me in a period of time to ask me if I have made amends and feel that I could by the Grace of God serve worthily”).

        Obviously, the task is daunting and that is again the need for integrity. The Integrity of Relationship:. A Priest talking to his Bishop. A Priest talking to his Spiritual Director. A Priest talking to his Friends, so that he does not doubt himself and whether he does have the necessary qualities. (The Seminarian likewise makes his way through Seminary the same way.)

        Unfortunately, like those who go into Politics, those who go into the Priesthood, being savvy and prey to power and to praise–vainglory–well… enough said.

        Lambzie and Doug, thank you!

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        • charliej373 says:

          Ha, YD, when asked by a couple of my Archdiocesan authorities if anything had surprised me about dealing with Church people, I told them that I was surprised to find many officials and prelates to be as self-absorbed, petty and scheming as the politicians I worked with so long – but not nearly as good at it, though they think they are. They looked at each other and laughed, I think in sad recognition of a reality they have to deal with every day.

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        • Doug says:

          You are welcome YD and thank you for your words of wisdom.

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        • Doug says:

          I love my Catholic faith. I pine for and I pray for Holy priests. Lord, please send us Holy priests with a humble and burning desire to do your will.

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  7. Joseph77 says:

    “To remain silent is to permit serious confusion regarding a fundamental truth of the moral law.”
    Tell that to the Cardinals of Boston, New York and Washington DC–the silence is deadly–a sacrilege of Our Lord Jesus Christ!

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  8. nance says:

    It would be more believable that the Bishops would do anything, if they had done anything against Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden or any other supposedly Catholic politician. May this Storm prove effective at waking up the Catholics in name only (CINOs??)

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  9. Wow, them’s fighting words.

    I tell you what, I’m relieved. I am. Because if we don’t stand for the Eucharist, then we stand for nothing.

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  10. Sally says:

    I worked for the Dr Alan Keyes Presidential Campaign in a number of the past Presidential Elections when Dr Keyes was running as a Presidential Candidate. We heard all types of compromises. Most people had no idea that practically all the 2 Party Major Candidates in both of the Parties over the last many years are Pro Abortion, including in the cases of rape, incest and in the threat of the life of the mother.
    Dr Keyes reminded us that there is no such thing as “a lesser evil” in the Catechism. Evil is evil. People may be interested that http://www.americasparty.com and theconstitutionparty.com are other Political Party options, including Pro Life platforms, and they may want to read about these Parties
    Tom Hoefling had stated during the 2012 Presidential Campaign, he was against contraception.
    I encourage everyone to do the homework and hold those who refuse to make this information Public, accountable.
    In the past elections it was said:, A vote for a Third Party, is a vote for an abortion Candidate
    I don’t buy that argument, because, if I vote for a Candidate who is 100 percent Pro Life, no exceptions, that is who I vote for, not the guy that lost to the other Major 2 Party Candidate
    If there is not enough faith for those who compromise on the abortion issue, then it is what it is.
    We can not blame those who run and work for 100 percent ProLife Candidates,
    for those who side with Candidates who favor some types of abortion and who don’t work to change this compromise on abortion,in the major political parties, year after year
    The past elections went overwhelmingly to the current President, regardless of votes by the Third Party voters.
    If I would have voted for the Republican, on record stating he was Ok with some forms of abortions, I would have voted for the loosing candidate AND gone against my conscience
    People need to know that when Candidates say they are Pro Life, that DOES NOT ALWAYS mean they are 100 percent Pro Life, NO EXCEPTIONS. Christians need to start asking the Republican Candidates ” Are you 100 percent Pro Life No Exceptions ” ? And in the future work to run those Candidates who are Pro Life. Republican leaders have made this information very difficult to be made known. I hope the babies who were not wanted by their parents, who want to abort them, still count when Christians consider voting. This is just another opinion you may have not considered. You decide !

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    • johnjwblog says:

      Dr Alan Keyes thoroughly beat Obama in a debate in a race for the senate, it’s too bad he lost, but he was a fill in candidate for Ryan and from outside of Illinois so he had his work cut out, this was not fair to him but that’s politics and it ruined his career – he would have made a good president.

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  11. Annie W. says:

    We need in the Church worldwide preaching on 1 Cor. 11. How many Catholics have not been to confession in years and go to Communion every week! Yes, we’re all sinners, and must continually ask for God’s graces in the sacraments.

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  12. Rose says:

    We must pray, pray, pray! ✝✝✝

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  13. JG says:

    Signed the petition. Is it time for an Inquisition?Perhaps that would be too much of a temptation for the good holy priests on the Inquisition Board.
    Sometimes very stern measures are needed when the pendulum swings to far from the teachings of the Truth. People get so head strong, stubborn and prideful that gently bringing the likes of Kaine, Pelosi , Biden, Kerry et al. doesn’t work!
    Banking on the Triumph of the IM as we all go through CAT5 Hurricane Hillary. What’s the difference between CAT 5 and a Super Typhoon? Or shall we call it Earthquake Clinton with a 10.9 on the Richter Scale with an epicenter USA?
    “I command you be firm and steadfast, do not fear nor be dismayed for the Lord your God will guide you where ever you go.” Josh1:9

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  14. Everything is considered politics nowadays. It is an unfortunate reality of the times we live in. The question of abortion is fundamentally an issue of life and death, and almost as fundamentally a moral issue, and yet most people would identify it first and foremost as a political issue. Same-sex marriage (and more encompassing, acceptance of homosexual lifestyles as a permissible alternative to chastity as traditionally defined) should be primarily a moral issue, and then secondarily an issue of psychology. But it is considered by most to be a political issue. And the list goes on.

    Left left has successfully intimidated otherwise good bishops and pastors (and some have been co-opted complicitly, unfortunately) into silence by interjecting politics into moral issues, and then claiming that discussion of the morality of these issues amounts to political discourse. The premise, of course, is inherently wrong but that doesn’t stop them from arguing from that premise. Seldom have I actually heard that premise challenged. And thus, there is silence.

    The silence exists for a few different reasons, and it all stems from politics and money. In some cases, there may be honest confusion on whether or not the topic ventures too far into politics. Combine this confusion with a misled sense of feeling like politics shouldn’t be discussed from the pulpit, to some naive fear that doing so will risk tax-exempt status and it’s easier to say nothing. Priests also are well aware that many people in the pews are Democrats who are perfectly willing to turn a blind eye to these issues because they are Democrats first and Catholics second. Or third. Or eighth. In any case, preaching on issues that could potentially hurt their candidates on election day is anathema and could lead to a smaller collection basket. Unfortunately, there are no shortage of Priests who lean left on these same issues as well, who have no issue in being “courageous” on supporting immigration policies of the left, supporting higher taxes on the rich, and holding us “accountable” for policies respecting the poor but will never address the problematic issues on the left, even if they personally oppose them. Those things are “too controversial” (and, oh by the way, could hurt the chances of my guy’s election chances…)

    Withholding communion from an obstinate politician is, indeed, is the action of a shepherd concerned for a person’s soul. It is a spiritual act by nature. But it will not be seen that way. You can bet the left would immediately accuse the Priests and Bishops of “playing politics” with Holy Communion, and all sorts of threats and bad publicity would abound. It would make the consequences of a homily on abortion pale in comparison.

    If it is a courageous act by a pastor to openly preach against abortion, same sex marriage, and contraception it is an entirely sacrificial act to stand up to the political machine and face the music by denying a high-profile politician communion.

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    • RMD says:

      Lyndon Johnson was responsible for legislation in 1954 that limits and prohibits churches from political activity, speech, etc. or risk loss of their tax exempt status. Now that moral issues have been politicized, one sees why our Catholic leaders have stayed mainly silent on these moral issues. Trump has proposed to abolish this legislation, eliminating this muzzle of the 1st amendment.

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  15. Andrea says:

    This may be wrong and mean but….I sent T. Kaine an email (I’m sure he didn’t even read it) that said he should not mock God the way Joseph Biden has. He has lost a child and support abortion. God will not be mocked. You have a son in harms way and you too should not mock God.

    For better or worse??

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    • al chandanais says:

      Kaine has said he is against the death penalty because of his Catholic upbringing, that even if he loses a vote he will not change his view. Problem is as Governor, he lowered the sentence of one murderer after getting him off death row and tried to send another convicted murder to another country that would refute his sentence. The Likes of these Politicians who have sold they’re souls for votes and a great way of life here on earth truly need our prayers and our love because they are throwing away their heavenly citizenship. Personally I can’t imagine voting for any Democrat because of their stance on everything I hold dear. However way to many in our land are convinced that being nice is better than the truth and what is right.

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  16. Pat says:

    While I can agree with some points, I find on the whole this topic to be a slippery slope. I get the public nature of Kaine as a politician adds a great deal of scandal to the nature of his sin (supporting abortion and homosexual marriage). However,

    However, what about the masses who contracept? Granted, not all of them are public in their belief, but some are (the wife and I have been made fun of at parties, by people we consider friends, who openly talk about getting “fixed’ or taking the pill and why don’t we?). What about Catholic who support same sex marriage via the “Equal Sign” bumper stickers? What about the person with a drinking problem and everybody in the parish knows it? Should these folks be denied communion? If it “No”, they shouldn’t be denied communion, is it only because they aren’t quite so public as say a politician?

    I totally support Bishops having private discussions with Catholic politicians admonishing their position. I think that we must be careful or the debate will move into the political arena. Then politicians will say that the Church has become political and must lose their 501c3 status.

    Perhaps that’s what must happen and that’s a good thing…..who knows?

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    • Patricia says:

      Pat,
      The difference is that the politicians are sinning publicly by giving scandal to the faithful. The non-politicians, who use the pill and other such things, are sinning but not doing so in a way that influences millions of people.
      The Catholics in MA put Ted Kennedy in office for decades. They have a lot to atone for. In 1998, Clinton vetoed the partial birth abortion bill. The plurality needed to over ride the veto was three. Ted Kennedy and Kerry were two of the three votes. Cardinal Law spoke to Kennedy prior to the vote and Kennedy chose to vote to override. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if Law had told both men that he would publicly speak out on the bill and that he would take Kennedy and John Kerry to task with the result that they could not receive communion, either they would have changed their vote or the public would have found out what partial birth abortion was and that their two senators voted for it and now could not receive communion. If the latter had happened, all hell would have broken out here in Boston.
      Btw, I would be very careful in using the analogy of alcoholics. Alcoholism is a compulsion that needs help and intervention. It might well be that the person who is sinning is the one who fails to help the poor soul.

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      • madkatmomma says:

        Cardinal Law, as we learned later, was in no position to lecture anyone on morality. However I think the Kennedy family in general is a disgrace to their so-called faith…and have been for generations

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        • Patricia says:

          Completely disagree with you madkatmomma. Law failed to handle the sex abusers correctly. He failed to also handle the pro-abort politicians correctly. Both are egregious. Both could be a failure of morality but as a Prince of the Church, it is a failure to govern in his diocese and it is a failure to protect his flock. Because he failed to do one, does not mean he should not do the other or that he did not have the authority to do so.

          With regards to the sex abuse, it could be argued that Law was doing what the lawyers and the doctor’s were advising him to do. As in ” if you remove the abuser from that parish maybe he will not do it again” or “send him away for treatment”, or ” the parents want this handled without the courts” etc. Not that it was the correct answer. However, it was the solution of the era not only in the religious field but in the education, medical and other fields. And that is pretty much what he and the cabal around him were doing. I use cabal because I believe many of the upper echelon were/are gay. Otherwise, a healthy masculine priesthood would have NO tolerance for deviant behavior. ( The abused were 98% young teenage boys).

          On a personal note, I always felt badly that Law was alone in taking it on the chin back then. He was not to our knowledge a practicing homosexual. However, we do know there were a number of Bishops and priests across the country who were and who were also protecting these priests. These men did so because of their own failings and/or they were being blackmailed. Over the years, a few of them were exposed. However, the media, always landing on the side of the GBLT community, did not excoriate them as much as they did Law. I am not arguing for letting Law off the hook, I am arguing that all these men should take it on the chin in such a public way.

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      • naisy says:

        I am disturbed by these conversations, and it makes me wonder how we will ever last a week beyond the rescue! Senators, Alcoholics, Bishops, Politicians, Druggies, Losers, Winners, Holies, Creatines…. Lord, how long can we last? Without YOU we are hopeless!

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    • Matthew says:

      Pat:
      So, because we can’t correct every situation we should not correct any situation?
      Talk about a slippery slope!
      Matthew

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    • leslyek says:

      Pat and Others — I think the idea is yes, Politicians who hold the power to guard against unconstitutional, anti natural law policies such as abortion on demand ( beyond trying to save life of Mother and baby), are held to the proportionally just consequence of an immediate and automatic correction or excommunication if they obstinately neglect that power.

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    • Brocadelli says:

      I think the word manifest is key here. This is about public figures who publicly advocate for sins that are gravely sinful. Such public advocacy requires public repentance.

      Although those who contracept should refrain from receiving, if they are not public figures who are announcing / promoting it, that’s a little different. You don’t know when someone goes to communion whether they just confessed that sin in the confessional before mass. With a public figure, they should be required to publicly recant before presenting themselves for communion.

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    • Kati says:

      Personally, I have pondered this and think the Church should ignore the *501c3* status, preach the TRUTH and depend on God for its needs. St. Mother Teresa once stated much the same thing to a Cardinal or a Bishop (can’t remember exactly) who had offered her the financial support of the Church.

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      • nance says:

        AMEN! Then we, and only we, could help illegals, we and only we ,could care for everyone, and we and only we, could NOT do abortions in our hospitals! And our pastors would be free to preach.

        (If any still know how. I have heard our pastor say the word “abortion” ONCE in the 10 years he has been with us. And that was when he was reading aloud a letter from the bishop.)

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    • al chandanais says:

      Hi Patrick, There is so many who have lost their way because of their own selfishness, i remember thinking as a young man the church was nut’s if they thought they could tell my wife and I something pertaining to our privacy. It is only now I understand. I try to follow the churches teachings because I believe what the church teaches, sadly there are too many who don’t. After the rescue (Praise God) those left will see with new eyes.

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  17. David Gibson says:

    A related topics is the impact of Alyn sky on the church. EWTN showed a new film called “Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing” on 1 Oct. Very good history. Go to the link to rent or buy the film: http://www.alinskyfilm.com/.

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  18. Sara Lockwood says:

    This isn’t easy for me to do because it’s not “my job.”
    Well, I guess it is, because I’m God’s daughter, and my Savior is being slighted.

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  19. roses1sb says:

    I went for a ride and I live in a little city in Michigan Roseville……I was coming back and on the corner was One Man maybe in his late thirties or early forty standing on the corner by him self….Holding abortion signs and an image of a baby born dead from abortion…….no one paid attention to him so I turned around held out my Rosary and beeped my horn for support….. this is how we need our men to act in office….this gave me hope that he stood their holding those signs moving back and forth for all to see, by him self………I just wanted to share this on here because of the kinda topic of politicians being ok with abortion….this one man gave me hope about this…a man standing alone doing this for God…….

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    • Mick says:

      Hey, Roses, you and I only live a couple of hours from each other (I’m in the Lansing/Jackson area). Are you going to be able to come when Charlie gives a talk in Jackson on November 9?

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  20. Anonymous says:

    Sometimes I wonder how people can consider themselves Christian or Catholic when they not only take issue with, but actively oppose the fundamentals of their faith. Any reasonable person would have major cognitive dissonance. I mean, how could someone possibly force the Little Sisters of the Poor to provide abortion coverage (Obama) or force churches to change their doctrine (H. Clinton) and still think they’re actually Christian? If Kaine never told us he was “Catholic,” we would never be able to infer that. If these people were confronted with an Islamic extremist asking, “Are you Christian?” they would say, “Yes..insofar as it is politically expedient,” and the terrorist would reply, “That’s good enough, I’ll leave you alone.”

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  21. The FIVE (5) NON-NEGOTIABLES

    Based on Catholic Church teachings, the Catechism, Papal Encyclicals, and issue papers from the Office of the Doctrine of the Faith, the following five issues concern actions that are intrinsically evil, must never be promoted by the law, fundamentally conflict with the moral law, and can never be performed under any circumstances. It is a serious sin to deliberately endorse or promote any of these actions.

    1. ABORTION

    The Church teaches that it is “never licit to obey it, or to take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law, or to vote for it”. Abortion is the intentional and direct killing of an innocent human being, and therefore is a form of homicide. The unborn child is always an innocent party, and no law may permit the taking of his life. Even when a child is conceived through rape or incest, the fault is not the child’s, who should not suffer death for others’ sins.

    Another sub-set issue that is non-negotiable pertains to Human Reproductive Technologies, which includes the Church’s position against Contraception, In-Vitro Fertilization and Sterilization.

    2. EUTHANASIA

    Often disguised by the name “mercy killing”, euthanasia is also a form of homicide. No person has a right to take his own life or the life of any innocent person. In euthanasia, the ill or elderly are killed, by action or omission, out of a misplaced sense of compassion, but true compassion cannot include intentionally doing something intrinsically evil to another person.

    3. EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH

    Human embryos are human beings. “Respect for the dignity of the human being excludes all experimental manipulation or exploitation of the human embryo.” Recent scientific advances show that medical treatments that researchers hope to develop from experimentation on embryonic stem cells can often be developed by using adult stem cells instead. Adult stem cells can be obtained without doing harm to the adults from whom they come. Thus there is no valid medical argument in favor of using embryonic stem cells. And even if there were benefits to be had from such experiments, they would not justify destroying innocent embryonic humans.

    4. HUMAN CLONING

    “Attempts … for obtaining a human being without any connection with sexuality through ‘twin fission,’ cloning, or parthenogenesis are to be considered contrary to the moral law, since they are in opposition to the dignity both of human procreation and of the conjugal union.” Human cloning also involves abortion because the “rejected” or “unsuccessful” embryonic clones are destroyed, yet each clone is a human being.

    5. HOMOSEXUAL “MARRIAGE”

    True marriage is the union of one man and one woman. Legal recognition of any other union as “marriage” undermines true marriage, and legal recognition of homosexual unions actually does homosexual persons a disfavor by encouraging them to persist in what is an objectively immoral arrangement. “When legislation in favor of the recognition of homosexual unions is proposed for the first time ina legislative assembly, the Catholic lawmaker has a moral duty to express his opposition clearly and publicly and to vote against it. To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral.”

    Reprint from http://stjoseph-marysville.org/faqnonnegotiables.html

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    • Sally says:

      I have long wondered why most Catholic leaders did not endorse, run or work for the Candidates who are 100 Percent Pro Life no exceptions. All the media and leadership has failed promoting those great Third Party Pro Life Candidates, year after year, who risked so much, while most people had no idea there has been these legitimate options for them to support.

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  22. Robyn says:

    Question. My daughter recently said that the Catholic Church allows for abortion in cases where the mother and/or child will die to save the life of the mother. I said that I would die to save her life, parents put their children’s lives ahead of there own. And God doesn’t makes mistakes, He is aware of the medical situations and diseases that the mother has even before she knows. To abort a child to save a mother then the church is saying God made a mistake in allowing this child to be conceived/ in creating them . I said that I didn’t think this was so, and reminded her of St. Gianna Molla. Am I wrong, is there a teaching about this I didn’t know?

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    • charliej373 says:

      You can never intentionally abort. But if some absolutely necessary procedure to rescue the mother’s life causes the loss of an unborn child, it can be licit.

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      • Pawel says:

        What about that procedure for checking whether the “fetus” is going to have the Down Syndrome? Performing it involves they say ” a small risk of miscarriage – just 1 in 100 babies will not survive the diagnostic test”. My wife’s friend was told by the doctor she would have a DS child, she decided to deliver anyways and her baby was born without the DS. Our times exceeded Hitler’s achievements in this regard, are even worse because the blood is not so visible and the act of butchering is sugar coated. …

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    • januarylily says:

      an instance would be a tubal pregnancy.

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      • BD says:

        januarylily. Too bad some of these progressives weren’t tubal pregnancies or victims of planned parenthood. Oh well there is always plan B…

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    • pineconejill says:

      Usually is because of an ectopic (tubal) pregnancy. Babies cannot survive in the fallopian tube and if the tube ruptures, the mother can die. The surgery saves the mother, but nothing can be done for the child. It is very sad.

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      • JudyM says:

        I have scrubbed in surgery on many ruptured tubal and ectopic pregnancies, but one emergency surgery stands out in my mind.
        This young woman was brought to the heart room because they thought her aorta was rupturing. When we opened her, we found a lot of blood and an ectopic pregnancy.
        The baby was quite large, probably about 3 inches long. When the surgeon removed it from the mother’s abdomen, he handed it to me. It was still alive and moving in my hands. My head nurse came over and looked at it and whispered, “Judy baptize it.” I quickly whispered the words, and placed it in a little basin.
        Then I had to get back to assisting the surgeons. The mother’s GYN surgeon was called in to the case, and they were both exploring the mother’s abdomen before sewing her closed.

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        • jlynnbyrd says:

          What a blessing that you and your head nurse showed such love and compassion. ❤

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        • Allie oop says:

          Three of our eight children are in heaven. The three in heaven, 2 due to ectopic pregnancies and 1 miscarriage :(.

          After our 1st three children my husband and I chose to have a tubaligation. At the time we were not church goers. Praise be to God we were enlightened and our hearts were opened to God. I witnessed the love my children had for God and it was beautiful! I was in awe of not only the gift they were to us but also the gift they were to God our Father. He was allowing us to share in the gift of raising them up.

          After many miraculous events my tubes were put back together. A year went by and we received another gift from God I was pregnant! 2 months later I was in severe pain, our little one was stuck in my fallopian tube. We struggled with the decision as to how to handle this nightmare. The Dr gave us the choices, removing the tube, wait and see if child would pass by itself (risking fallopian tube rupture and death), or the chemical solution :(. We were devastated and confused. Why God? Our older children were 6, 8 & 10 and we had them come to the hospital before their baby brother left us. We cried together at a picnic table outside the hospital. We had chosen the chemical (this is very hard to talk about). The Dr did not carry the medication in his office so we had to go to the hospital pharmacy. My husband had to purchase the vial of death and bring it to the office where I was. My husband said it was like he was carrying the weight of the world in that hand. We did not know this was morally wrong but it felt like it was. (We were still very young in our faith.) Our baby left us that day. We named him Emmanuel. God told us in time we would understand.

          2 years later we were gifted with another baby. This time a girl. God chose to take her early through miscarriage. Her name is Maria Gabrielle. We were devastated. Again God told us in time we would understand.

          Another 2 years went by and God brought two little brothers into our hearts and home through adoption :). Praise be to God once again.

          God gifted us with another baby in my womb. This one, Annie, was destined for an early arrival into heaven as well. This time my tube burst. Annie was a blessed surprise for all of us. The excitement and pain of her life and death sealed the bond we had with our two adopted sons. We were blessed to experience trauma together. One day as we cuddled they said, “mom I wish I had been in your tummy.” I said, “well gosh I am glad you weren’t,” they looked at me in surprise as I continued, “because if you were you would have gotten stuck!” The smile on their faces was priceless.

          Yes in time my husband and I did understand.

          We made a horrible decision in choosing sterilization. Praise be to God; out of our horrible choice He brought goodness – two foster children found a forever family.

          I can also see why removing the tube in an ectopic pregnancy is the morally sound choice. I am so glad you spoke about this. And the truth shall set you free!

          Hearing the story about the little baby being held in your hand still moving and you baptizing brought a smile to my heart. God is amazing in you.

          Thank you all for sharing!

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      • nance says:

        Life is miraculous these days, in spite of all this evil. There has been ectopic pregnancies that resulted in a live, healthy babies. It is not the norm however. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2008476/The-mother-risked-ectopic-baby.html

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      • JudyM says:

        Just a point of clarification. Tubal pregnancies are considered ectopic pregnancies, but not all ectopic pregnancies are tubal. The embryo can make it through the Fallopian tube but implant in the abdomen instead of the uterus, like the one I commented on.

        Depending on where the baby decides to attach in the abdomen for a blood supply determines how long it lives. For example, if it implants on a large blood vessel or the bowel, it will rupture the bowel or vessel, and thus emergency surgery.

        If it implants on the abdominal wall, it can live for quite a while, and indeed babies are alive today that attached to the abdominal wall.

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    • zeniazenia says:

      Hi Robyn, In some cases, both the mother and the baby would die without surgery, so they usually perform the surgery and hope someday medical advances will keep both mom and baby alive. In St. Gianna’s case, she proceeded with a medical plan which would not interfere with the baby’s life. The alternative surgery would have been to save her own life at the cost of losing the baby. –ZJ

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    • Here is a site that discusses some of ethical questions behind this complicated issue, Robyn.

      http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_hist_c1.htm

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      • Monica Joseph of the Blessed Sacrament, OCDS says:

        Patrick,
        I was skimming the article — it’s from a source that seems maybe somewhat hostile to the Church, if I’m reading it correctly. Mostly, though, I wanted to comment that it is my understanding, which the article’s heading did not make clear, that abortion is never permissible, because abortion by definition contains the intent to kill the child. Medical procedures, such as removing the tube in an ectopic pregnancy, would result in the unintended death of the child and therefore would not be an abortion. That is how I have understood it, and in the example of the two courses of action described in the article for an ectopic pregnancy, ie killing the baby directly by some chemical agent versus removing the tube, clearly the latter procedure would then be licit but not the former, as the Church teaching is that abortion is an intrinsic evil and never permissible. At least, that is my simple understanding.

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        • Hi Sister. I agree with you completely. The article said basically the same thing you did, quoting our hero Father Frank Pavone: “The mother is not saved by the death of the child but by the removal of the tube. Because the death of the child in this case is a side effect which is not intended, and because the saving of the mother’s life is not brought about by the death of the child, such a removal of the damaged portion of the tube is morally permissible. ” (Double Effect)

          On the flip side: Those who support the use of a chemical means to terminate an ectopic pregnancy are using the argument that the fertilized egg, typically discovered around 8 weeks, is doomed to die anyway. (Slippery slope argument?) Using a drug like methotrexate, which is used in chemotherapy, would stop cell growth and dissolve the cells while keeping the Fallopian tube intact – and that is willful abortion. They argue the result of the two procedures, surgical versus chemical, is the same: a dead embryo and a living woman, but they argue the latter allows for future pregnancies. Nonetheless, the latter is morally wrong.

          To be honest, I was unaware of the precise teachings of the Church on this heartbreaking topic, but I’m grateful for this discussion as it prompted me to explore it deeper. It dovetails nicely with a lame ethics course I’m taking.

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    • Mack says:

      This is the principle of the double effect. It comes into play when an action that is good in itself has two effects, one good and one evil. There are certain conditions explained in the article below. One of them is that one can never intentionally do the directly evil thing. So one could never directly abort a child to bring about some good effect. But if another needed medical procedure would indirectly cause the death of the child, that is permissible if the other conditions for double effect are in place. St Gianna did a heroic act precisely because she could have licitly taken some medication to help her disease even if it had a bad effect on her child.
      http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/abortion-and-double-effect

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    • ann says:

      robyn–I actually was confronted with this situation when pregnant with my third child. I had some cancerous cells and the tests were not good. I was three months pregnant and I was told by my (then) MD that pending test results, I might have to abort and have a hysterectomy. My mother–the most devout of devout Catholics–told me that it was licit to do this because cancer was a life threatening illness. I spent an anxious weekend in prayer and got an answer that to this day I find hard to put into words because it was deeper than words. Pre-verbal level, sort of. Hard to explain. But the jist of it was–only one person can make a decision to sacrifice a life in this situation. I had the understanding and intellect to make a clear choice. My child did not. therefore, the sacrifice was mine to make. Or not. I took a leap of faith to trust God and made the decision to continue the pregnancy and cope with the problem after the baby’s safe delivery. The lab tests came back and they were serious and scary. I said, “I’m going to have this baby. regardless.” My doctor was angry and he frightened me with ghastly scenarios– but I stuck to my guns (by God’s grace) and quite miraculously another obstetrician stepped forward and volunteered to take over my case. I did have to deal with the serious medical situation afterward and in fact I am still dealing with it in one form or another all these years later but I wouldn’t change a thing.Every time I look at my handsome intelligent loving son–who is now a father himself–I thank God again that He showed me clearly what the choice was. I remember that once I made the choice to let my baby live and take my chances with the cancer, I had great joy. Incredible joy. It was a tough and life threatening pregnancy right up to delivery day–but God gave me joy through it. Anyone in this situation I beg you to really surrender it to God. Just trust Him. God never forsakes us. Truly.

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  23. Theresa says:

    If Hilary wins, everyone will lose. She wants to change the “Moral Code.” Communism will come to America, and we will be forced to do things against our will. She could close our churches if we don’t change to her ” Moral Code.” This is a very serious election. Pray the rosary that Hilary and Kaine do not win. If Hilary wins, things in America will never be the same. May the Lord have Mercy on us.

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    • Sean Sullivan says:

      “If Hilary wins, everyone will lose. She wants to change the “Moral Code”. Communism will come to America”

      Not to be too blunt: Communism is already here.

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    • Snowy Owl says:

      Theresa, I’m not sure if you are new here- but have you read what Charlie has said about the election? If not, you could go back in the archives and read… no worries! Something brand new is coming and Hillary isn’t going to be part of that..not in a leading way, anyway 😉 hopefully she will repent so she can also enjoy what God has in store for us! We need to pray for her- for all of them! Jesus and Mary💕save souls!

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  24. Mary says:

    I wrote this in the early morning hours of adoration.
    Litany of Love & Reparation to Jesus Abandoned & Profaned
    My Jesus I believe in You, My Jesus I adore You, My Jesus I love You in the Most Blessed Sacrament.
    In all the tabernacles of the world, I adore You Jesus.
    In the churches where few believe, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where Your tabernacle is moved off to the side, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where You are barely reverenced, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where the sanctuary light is often unlit, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where your priests spend no time with You, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where no one goes to confession, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where little children are not told about you, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches that are not clean, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where there is no adoration, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where there are sacrilegious communions, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where no one comes to visit you, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where there is barely a spark of faith left, I adore You Jesus.
    In the churches of men’s hearts, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where no one meditates on Your Passion, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where no one contemplates Your Mercy, I adore You Jesus.
    In churches where You are received with indifference, I adore You Jesus.
    In the cold, quiet, and dark churches, I adore You Jesus.
    In the churches where unspeakable acts are done in Your Presence, I adore You Jesus.
    In the churches where your people prefer their own sins to You, I adore You Jesus.
    Heart of Jesus resting in all the tabernacles of the world for love of mankind, I believer in You.
    Heart of Jesus resting in all the tabernacles of the world for love of mankind, I adore You.
    Heart of Jesus resting in all the tabernacles of the world for love of mankind, I love You.
    Be merciful to us O Jesus, graciously hear us O Jesus, we adore You O Jesus.

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  25. Vijaya says:

    Three words: First Friday Mass

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    • Carmel says:

      And note that this month’s first Friday coincides with the feast of Our Lady of the Holy Rosary😊

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    • Audrey S. says:

      I want you to know that, although I’ve been back in the church for over a decade, I have never heard of First Friday Mass…just First Saturday. Maybe I have, but I forgot or didn’t pay attention? Maybe I shouldn’t admit that out loud? ha! But thank you for this. I may have to start doing this.. and drag my 1 and 4 year olds with me whether they like it or not! 😛 So Thank you for saying those 3 words ❤

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  26. Brocadelli says:

    We need to get our voices heard outside of the echo chamber. We say to each other that these politicians need to be taken to task. How many people in the pews have no idea that this is a problem, though? It’s up to us to charitably inform the Joe Pewsitters of the world.

    I appreciate that Charlie didn’t just complain, but gave us solid actions to take to make our voices heard in the public square.

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  27. Ignacio says:

    I sadly believe that those who choose to remain silent have a fundamental problem. What is it? Love first. Any person who has experienced Love knows that we put the other before ourselves. Think of the moments we have with the beloved. All our hopes and joys are with the beloved. Time itself is slowed in the presence of the beloved. Moments of bliss joy beyond understanding.
    Jesus do I love you? Do I desire you above everything? Above my own comfort? What others think of me if I love you I care not! Are you my heart my being my all?
    Any man whether bishop priest or lay who would allow his hearts desire to be scorned or wounded does not deserve to be called a man. Mercy is no excuse to wound rather the word is cowardice. My Sovereign is not to be sullied by my lack of manhood.
    We are called to stand firm in faith. Yes dear brothers the devil roars like a lion seeking anyone to devour. Be not afraid. May the Eucharistic heart of our God be praised honoured and adored. Pray for the shepherds that they may not run for fear of the wolves 😉

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  28. CrewDog says:

    ……….. but there will be less worry about tomorrow if each “Today” one spend some small amount of time on Prayer-n-Preparation for that “Dark Tomorrow” that will come … even in the Good-Times!
    …………. so much of what I read here and other places makes me think that its just Chaff, Jamming and Distraction. We do, however, need to know what’s going on now so that we will have an idea, in that not too distant future, about what “pieces” we will keep when putting “IT” all back together. Jesus spoke of not being lukewarm. As Rush Limbaugh has said: There is no book in the library called “Great Moderates of World History”. We will all have to make decisions soon … some of those decisions may be grave …. must be made quickly. What the Pope (or Trump) said on some airplane or Communion for whomever is beyond my ability to do anything about ….. and it will just be chaff in the wind in short order anyway!

    HeartLight Daily Verse – 4 October

    Proverbs 27:1
    Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring forth.

    Thoughts on today’s verse:
    Don’t you have your hands full with today? Don’t you find yourself distracted from the urgent and important things of today by worrying about the problems of tomorrow and fantasizing about all the possibilities down the road? Isn’t it a waste of time to be anxious about those things you have no influence over? So why…?
    Prayer:
    God, give me the strength to seize the moment and live the life today that will please you and bless others. Help my heart feel the urgency of today and act with boldness, kindness, and salvation instead of worrying so much about what may happen. Give me the immediacy of the moment I see in your son’s ministry. Through whom I pray. Amen.
    Visit heartlight.org for more
    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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    • molchanie77 says:

      This is very good, CrewDog. I really appreciate your comments on prayer and preparation for the ‘dark tomorrow’ and so much being chaff, jamming,and distraction. it hit a bulls eye.

      There was (for me) a little warning bell that went off when I read Dan Lynch’s article. A niggling little worry that too many faithful Catholics may have an unconscious attitude similar to Job’s friends: If we obey God’s laws, we can expect a certain outcome. If we do this and that devotion, we can expect a certain outcome. That attitude can be a ‘warm security blanket’ that does not permit the sonshine or rain to nurture the soil of our hearts and bring forth growth producing fruit. How tempting it is to try to make sense out of things when it is wiser to simply trust in God who alone sees the sense in what isn’t sensible to us. I am not saying Dan is communicating in such a way; this is a concern that comes to my heart often in conversation with some of my very devout Catholic friends and in way too many comments I read on other websites. I will use myself as an example:

      This most recent first Saturday (Oct. 1), I went to confession because of a cloud of darkness in my own heart. I was confronted with the fact that I did not REAL-LY love Hillary or Obama or others in their camp. I was not praying for them from a heart of authentic love. When I prayed for them, it was out of duty to do what God wants; fear for the damage they have done to our country and will continue to do – and it was sterile because I had no love, no compassion. They were reduced to pictures on TV or in printed material with no real sense of their humanity, personal history, wounds, and the fact that God loves them and desires their salvation.

      What I am trying to share (and doing such a poor job of it), is that as we pray and work and live the devotions we are attracted to living, all those we love and hold in our hearts are brought into the merciful presence of our Lord Jesus. If we don’t truly love our enemies, where are they as we go to Jesus to console His Heart in the way we live our daily lives, our prayers and devotions, and as we receive Him in the Eucharist? I am accusing myself here. How painful it is to be faced with how cold and hard my own heart still tends toward being after all these years and Eucharists.

      Trust. Do. Love. Let’s not let the loving part get lost as we trust and do.

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  29. Charlie says:

    Admonishments from Catholic Apostles? All wishful thinking. That sound you hear, you know the sound of crickets, well, that’s the sound that comes from the residences and chanceries where too many Bishops reside and preside, when it comes to exhorting and disciplining errant catholic souls, who also happen to be politicians. The fix is in with Satan and his 24/7 dedication to attack our Lord’s chosen ones. We can only do as our Lord Jesus ask us to do and that is to pray for them because battle of powers and principalities is indeed centered on anesthetizing the men of God with spiritual anemia.

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    • charliej373 says:

      There are many heroic Bishops who meet the cultural issues head on and preach truth in all seasons, such as Archbishop Cordileone in San Francisco, Archbishop Semple in Portland, Bishop Paprocki in Springfield, Illinois, and my own Archbishop Aquila in Denver – among many others. One of the problems is we are so much quicker to condemn those who are errant than to thank those who are faithful. For every comment I see here laudin a faithful one, I see 20 condemning someone. Do you think Bishops don’t notice that orthodox Catholics are quick to condemn but rarely publicly have the back of an orthodox Bishop. They hear the sound of crickets all too often when they need the sound of support.

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  30. CrewDog says:

    Well Voris has got it mostly correct except Custer commanded the ill fated 7th Calvary of 1876 and our Hope will be a rescue by The Lord’s Cavalry lead by St Michael … Please God!!
    Historically, people turn back to God during Hard-Times when all the vaunted Human Institutions orchestrated by Know-It -All BigBro Gubermint fail miserably … as is happening before our eyes daily ;-(

    “GENERAL CUSTER CATHOLICISM” –
    Stop looking for the 5th Cavalry to ride to the rescue.

    http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-general-custer-catholicism?mc_cid=113e7da4c6&mc_eid=2a0b6c7ef6

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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  31. anonymous says:

    This is such an incredibly powerful piece by Dan Lynch! It makes me think of my sister, as I sit next to her and her “partner” in church, watching them go up, week after week, to receive Jesus’ precious body and blood… I’ve told my sister on a few different occasions how it’s a mockery and I tell her with love that she is committing an even graver sin by knowing her life style goes against the church and knowing she hasn’t gone to confession in at least 5 years but still receiving His body and blood… I’ve offered on many, many occasions to go to confession with her, but to no avail… her partner, a cradle Catholic who goes to church because it’s more of a tradition for her, conveniently doesn’t believe in confession and defiantly goes up to receive our Lord, rolling her eyes at people like me who think “this way”… I’m caught between not wanting to judge but not wanting to idly stand by as such grave heresies are played out before my eyes… it hurts my soul. I pray almost every week for our Lord to shine a beacon of light on my sister and her “partner”… to help my sister, ever the meek soul, to get a backbone as I see her “partner” push her to go up to receive… I’m sorry I’m rambling, but it is such a sorrowful thought for me, knowing that it is truly our Lord we are receiving and how He must hurt when he is mocked… Prayers for my sister and her “partner” please ❤

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    • jlynnbyrd says:

      anon, I will keep your intention in my prayers.

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    • ykc says:

      Praying for all of you!

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    • Beckita says:

      Prayers for your sister and her partner, anonymous.

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    • Snowy Owl says:

      It sounds like you have said what needs to be said, and so at this point the only thing left to do is offer up the suffering it causes you and anything else you can offer for them-and pray for them! Jesus is very merciful..pray pray pray! We are still in the Year of Mercy!

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    • Karen says:

      Praying Anon. It’s a difficult cross and your suffering is not wasted. In a similar situation with a friend – whose friendship I have now lost – it is only by God’s Grace I am able to continue to pray with love for her.

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    • leslyek says:

      I experience this sometimes and pray ‘Lord, as far as possible , let it not be to their condemnation…’
      And figure they’all see it in my eyes; but not if they first avert my eyes if I judge their hearts before God does. Hard.

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    • JJ says:

      Anonymous, you’re in a similar situation to me, my wife left us for the women she’s “in love with”, we pray for her all the time (children and I). She told me she plans to attend Mass with us, but has never showed up, she recently told my oldest daughter that she can’t even walk into the Church anymore, which is probably best for her soul while living in Grave sin. I’ll give you the advice that Charlie gave me a few weeks ago, I asked what I could do in addition to praying, Charlie replied “Make reparations and do penance for them. You have no idea how fruitful this is – but it will come in God’s time, not yours.”

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    • bthanntrm says:

      It seems so many of us here suffer from the pains that our loved ones are causing Our Dear Lord. I will pray for all that carry this heavy burden and all our loved ones.

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      • jj says:

        bthanntrm,
        Oh how I wish that I could lay the blame on my wife for the pain being caused to Our Dear Lord, however a substantial portion of the responsibility is on my head, gotta be truthful.

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  32. ykc says:

    It was just announced this morning that Bishop Michael Burbidge of the Diocese of Raleigh, NC has been appointed Bishop of Arlington, VA beginning Dec. 6th. Bishop Burbidge is known to be a solid bishop. It will be interesting to see what he does in the DC area!

    Please pray for us in the Raleigh Diocese as we look toward our new shepherd (we have no idea when that will happen or who it will be). Bishop Burbidge was given to us after having a liberal bishop for 30 years. The thoughts of going back to that are almost too much to bear. Time to pray the Surrender Novena. Jesus, I trust in you!

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  33. CrewDog says:

    …. and …. Another, I can’t believe this **** moment!! …from the Democrats ….. Just another “SIGN” of what Isaiah talked about would be coming:
    “Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. Woe to you that rue wise in your own eyes, and prudent in your own conceits.”

    “Democratic Resolution Would Honor Planned Parenthood as ‘Essential Thread in Fabric of Society’”
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/lauretta-brown/senate-dems-introduce-resolution-honor-planned-parenthood-essential

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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  34. Joseph Antell says:

    I have just heard on the news that Tim Kane say she is an evangelical christian if thats true ?So thankfully he is not identifying himself as a Catholic

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  35. Like Charlie has mentioned so many times, a day is coming where we will have to depend on God, period.

    Because I love you, I want to show you what I am doing in the world today. I want to prepare you for what is to come. Days of darkness are coming on the world, days of tribulation… Buildings that are now standing will not be standing. Supports that are there for my people now will not be there. I want you to be prepared, my people, to know only me and to cleave to me and to have me in a way deeper than ever before. I will lead you into the desert… I will strip you of everything that you are depending on now, so you depend just on me. A time of darkness is coming on the world, but a time of glory is coming for my Church, a time of glory is coming for my people. I will pour out on you all the gifts of my Spirit. I will prepare you for spiritual combat; I will prepare you for a time of evangelism that the world has never seen…. And when you have nothing but me, you will have everything: land, fields, homes, and brothers and sisters and love and joy and peace more than ever before. Be ready, my people, I want to prepare you… —given by Ralph Martin in St. Peter’s Square in the presence of Pope Paul VI; Pentecost Monday of May, 1975

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  36. Paul B. Valdez says:

    Charlie,

    Thank you for publishing Dan Lynch’s very good article. WSJ’s article “Meet Planned Parenthood’s Tim Kaine” is more confirmation http://on.wsj.com/2dcr3DH

    Paul from Katy

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  37. James Ignatius McAuley says:

    I signed the petition, but we should also pray fro Bishop Francis DiLorenzo. He is a good man and much better than his predecessor. He has done a lot to clean up the Diocese.

    In any event, good petition, thank you Dan for taking the lead!

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  38. Patricia says:

    Well the good news is that Pence wiped the floor with Kaine’s explanation of his support of abortion. He also won the debate overwhelmingly. I hope this Godly man is part of God’s plan in the future.

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  39. johnjwblog says:

    Mike Pence since 2013 has been identifying as a an “evangelical catholic”, it appears he left his megachurch in 2013, check out Wikipedia, I had seen this on other sites as well.

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  40. Doug says:

    Hey everyone, today is the Poland moment! It is the Feast Day of Saint Faustina! 😊

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  41. Bob says:

    Fool’s hope
    I am thinking of telling people who don’t think God will intervene strongly to make our world better this. “And you are thinking that me hoping for God to intervene is a fool’s hope. After all, while God is God and He can certainly intervene in our world if He wants to, we have never seen such an intervention of God in our lives. And I would respond. ‘But it is certainly a fool’s hope to believe that with our present slate of corrupt and bungling candidates, that THEY could really do much to make our world and our country better. So we best do the little that we can do to make our little bit of the world a bit better and trust God for the rest”.

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  42. Storm Tracker Ed says:

    There’s that word again. Apostasy.

    Looking to the Catechism we see these references:

    2089. Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”11

    817 In fact, “in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church – for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame.”269 The ruptures that wound the unity of Christ’s Body – here we must distinguish heresy, apostasy, and schism270 – do not occur without human sin:

    Where there are sins, there are also divisions, schisms, heresies, and disputes. Where there is virtue, however, there also are harmony and unity, from which arise the one heart and one soul of all believers.271

    Apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith.

    Is Tim Kaine in a state of Apostasy? Or is he in a state of heresy? Or is he in a state of schism with the Catholic Church?

    Or, is he afflicted with all three. Apostasy, heresy AND schism? To a very large and detrimental and dangerous extent. Dangerous for Tim Kaine’s soul and undoubtedly dangerous to Catholic souls and to the spiritual health of the nation.

    For sure he presents a scandal for average Catholics.

    What does a Catholic who can’t stand Donald Trump do in Campaign 2016?

    Bishop James Conley of Lincoln, Nebraska provided crystal clear advice to American Catholics on this score on Sept. 30th.

    http://www.lincolndiocese.org/op-ed/bishop-s-column/6841-voting-and-living-as-good-citizens

    Voting and Living as Good Citizens

    Quoting St Mother Theresa of Calcutta Bishop Conley relates as follows:

    “….The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has shown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father’s role in an increasingly fatherless society. It has portrayed the greatest of gifts –a child– as a competitor, an intrusion, and an inconvenience…. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being’s entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign.”

    Abortion is a grave, unconscionable, and intolerable evil, and we cannot support it in the voting booth.

    Blind partisanship can be dangerous, and we have to look past political rhetoric and media alarmism to make prudent discernments.

    In each race, we need to discern whether there is a candidate who can advance human dignity, the right to life, and the common good.

    In extraordinary circumstances, some Catholics may decide, in good conscience, there is not a suitable candidate for some particular office and abstain from voting in that particular race.

    In good conscience, some Catholics might choose to vote for a candidate who, with some degree of probability, would be most likely to do some good, and the least amount of harm, on the foundational issues: life, family, conscience rights and religious liberty. Or, in good conscience, some might choose the candidate who best represents a Christian vision of society, regardless of the probability of winning. Or, in good conscience, some might choose not to vote for any candidate at all in a particular office.

    My….. point is that on some issues the moral obligations of Catholics, and the demands of the common good, are abundantly clear.

    For example, no Catholic can vote in good conscience to expand legal protection for abortion, or to support the killing of unborn children.”

    Bishop James Conley, Diocese of Lincoln Nebraska.
    Sept. 30, 2016.

    Well, there it is for Catholics. Firm, clear guidance from a Catholic Bishop. Leaving not much for “interpretation”.

    “Abortion is a grave, UNCONSCIONABLE, and intolerable evil, and we cannot support it in the voting booth.

    …no Catholic can vote in good conscience to expand legal protection for abortion, or to support the killing of unborn children.

    ….My….. point is that on some issues the moral obligations of Catholics, and the demands of the common good, are abundantly clear.”

    This is a man fully cognizant of his accountability to God for the guidance he gives to the flock that Christ has appointed him to lead to salvation.

    Moral advice which is as clear as a bell.

    We Catholics cannot IN GOOD CONSCIENCE vote for politicians, especially Catholic politicians, who support grave and intolerable evil. At the cost of putting our own eternal souls at RISK.

    What to do if you find yourself as a Catholic or otherwise Christian hating on Donald Trump as a candidate and potential POTUS from the perspective of “blind partisanship that can be dangerous not to say deadly to your eternal prospects”?

    You have one safe course open to you that will not put your soul at RISK…extreme RISK…as Bishop Conley suggests:

    “In extraordinary circumstances, some Catholics may decide, in good conscience, there is not a suitable candidate for some particular office and abstain from voting in that particular race.”

    We Catholics can’t, IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, vote for Clinton/Kaine. Their position is intolerable for Catholics. Their position is UNCONSCIONABLE. No Catholic can vote for them.

    That so many will is hugely terrifying. For both those people who do and for the country as a whole.

    For the sake of your own souls please do what Bishop Conley counsels:

    JUST DON’T VOTE.

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    • Sean Sullivan says:

      Ed,
      Thank you for the Bishops article, i have printed it for distribution to my local breakfest house. We don’t always agree but we do have lively discussions and depart respecting each others viewpoints. This being said, we as Americans do have a responsibilty to vote.

      By not voting, you are indeed making a choice to abide by ‘whatever’ candidate obtains the majority. May i make a suggestion? Pray, pray to the Holy Spirit to guide you for someone who would make an ideal candidate (preferably on the ballot) and cast a vote by writing the name on the ballot. We currently have about three thousand names listed for this upcoming Presidential election. For me it will be one of the seventeen pro-life republicans.

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    • madkatmomma says:

      Im with you. Trump says (now) he is pro life but I think he would go back on that in an instant to make some other deal. He is also in conflict with Catholic teaching on human rights and dignity. Even if he was reliably pro life his other positions are just as troubling

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      • janet says:

        Thank goodness we don’t have to worry about who wins. It just won’t matter because come January none of the two will be in office!

        I am not an American so have no vote… but if I could vote I would have to vote for Trump. Hillary is a type of antichrist. How we need to pray for that woman!

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        • janet says:

          I also need to say that ours are no better. The main political parties all agree on abortion and same sex marriage, as a right. 😦

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          • janet says:

            Sorry for the multiple posts…I forgot to also add this for those that haven’t seen it.

            The letter that Donald Trump sent to CatholicVote.org.
            Brian Burch
            President, CatholicVote.org
            P.O. Box 259837
            Madison, WI 53725
            October 1, 2016
            Mr. Burch,
            Thank you for writing me on the critical issue of religious freedom and the growing concerns of Catholic voters. Like you, I understand the many ways this issue impacts millions of Americans, especially those cared for by Catholic hospitals and charities or students educated in successful Catholic schools today. Religious freedom is our First Freedom, and it must be respected.
            Our current president has not respected American’s First Amendment rights. Many believe he has declared a war on Catholics. And my opponent promises to be even worse!
            I grew up in New York City. I have tremendous respect for the role of the Catholic Church in helping build New York, as well as other cities and communities across the country. Dedicated Catholic priests and religious leaders have built hospitals, schools, churches and charities while Catholic workers helped build our roads and bridges and started countless thriving businesses.
            As President, I promise that I will protect the rights of Catholics to live their faith, to serve their communities, and to act on their beliefs without fear. This approach one would think is just common sense. And I don’t care if people call it politically incorrect.
            The priorities that the next President will need to establish are not known at this time. Protection of the nation and its citizens must come first. Getting the economy back on track must be near the top of the list. Preserving and protecting the rights of our citizens must also be in the mix. If Congress considers legislation such as the First Amendment Defense Act or the Conscience Protection Act a priority, then I will do all I can to make sure it comes to my desk for signature and enactment.
            Very respectfully,
            Donald J. Trump

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          • Doug says:

            Sad. In the U.S., the Republican party has been traditionally pro family (Christian type that is), and pro life. There is a slow assault on this too.

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          • charliej373 says:

            Not as slow as it used to be.

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          • Doug says:

            Yes. Sadly true Charlie.

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        • madkatmomma says:

          We need to pray for both of them, and our country. Charlie’s rules of regency series to me is simply a return to our original constitution and the fundamentals upon which this country was founded: religious freedom, personal responsibility and liberty and justice for all.

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    • JG says:

      Thank you STE for this article. Times are crazy. Here’s this from Cardinal Burke:

      Cardinal Burke the patron of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta and the former archbishop of St. Louis said that even if Catholics see problems with both candidates on various issues they nevertheless can vote for the one who supports Catholic values the most.

      “More than likely the judgment will be that neither candidates ideally answers these questions all in the way that we want. But given the nature of our government can we in conscience support one of the candidates at least who while maybe [he or she] doesn’t support everything that we believe and know is important will at least support it to a certain extent with the hope that that candidate can be convinced to embrace evermore fully the common good” he said.

      Burke warned Catholics against not voting at all and against the practice of writing in the name of a preferred candidate on the ballot saying it could inadvertently cause the election of a candidate who does not respect life family and freedom.

      “And I understand these sentiments very well. But one also has to be very prudent and know that by not voting at all you are probably favoring one candidate or another” he said adding that even if Catholics wrote in the name of a favored candidate it would be unlikely for such a person to become elected.

      “The moral weight to voting is indeed very heavy. In other words every vote counts” he said.

      Burke urged Catholics to study carefully the positions of both running candidates before voting.

      “Those are difficult considerations and I don’t say any of this in a kind of easy way. But I do think that Catholics especially need to be very cautious and not simply opting out or good pro-life people and good pro-family people simply just throwing up their hands. I would just urge them to study the position of both candidates to the fullest possible degree to see whether or not one of them will not advance at least to some degree restoration of the civilization of life and love in our country.”

      I believe we are in the times warned about in Akita. Cardinal vs. cardinal, bishop vs bishop. Unstable people have access to nuclear material. Yikes what’s happening at the military base in Turkey – Incrik(sp?) scary…. lots of very dangerous material there.
      There are many good and holy priests and lay people who say not voting is very wrong. We are in a battle to keep the freedom of religion which Hillary claims she will attack.
      Many of the priests and informed catholics I’ve heard said we need to protect the right to assemble and worship God. Voting for a third party or not voting and increasing the chances of our losing this in the USA. There are many religious who are very concerned for their lives under Hillary. While writing this is makes me think about the Chaldean Catholic and other Rites in the Middle East. Most likely they too did not like their rulers morals i.e. Hussein, Mubarak or Assad, but they we much safer than they are now and they could worship. Hillary/Kaine will send us to the same end as these poor souls right now.
      Of course Trump is majorly flawed but Pence little less flawed was hopeful.( Yes Trump drives me crazy). Of course the USA is supposed to be a Christian Nation and make decisions accordingly but unfortunately so many are malformed and unformed. Many who claim to be Christian have become Hedonistic, materialistic, atheistic and so forth. We are in a very critical state. When people comment they will stay home or vote 3rd party makes me think about the parable of the 3 talents. They sound like those who buried it in the ground?

      In all charity, If we just take the attitude well”Charlie said it’s all going to fall apart anyway so I’ll just sit back and let it happen”( as some are commenting here) then aren’t we behaving in a way that Charlie has scolded some of us? We have to do something. I remember at one of his talks he said even if we make a mistake God can still steer us to the correct path. We must continue to be a people of prayer. We must become more vocal with politicians. Hold their feet to the fire. Ha.. if Trump wins then gosh almighty we MUST hold his feet to the fire and not go on living our lives. That’s when we have to really work and not go back to status quo. Too many in the 20s- 30s say ” Oh as long as I have my job, my bills are paid,and can do what I want , who cares” Ugh we have to vote because these ding dongs are too self absorbed to wake up fast enough.
      Law and order need to be restored to this country. The Obamaist/ communist currently in DC have to be routed out and held accountable, hopefully major prison time without parole. The chaos Obama & Hillary ( the globalist) have unleashed on this world has to stop.
      The 54 Rosary Novena for our country ends today. I say keep it going – We need to pray for all our politicians, leaders, and those good men & women who protect this country in the military or in law enforcement. I say how about offering our communions for these people ? Something is better than nothing.
      My comments are NOT meant to be hurtful. Only to be taken in the most charitable spirit so sorry if I offend anyone.

      Yes STE I do understand you are saying not to vote for Hillary just interpreted (maybe incorrectly) your not voting at all or 3rd party. Shouldn’t we vote anyway- for even Charlie isn’t commenting how or knows exactly how it will all unfold?
      In Christ
      JG

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      • charliej373 says:

        You defend your position well. My personal view is that if you knowingly choose to skip over an office, you have made a valid choice. At this point, I think you have acted in good conscience if you vote for Trump, vote a write-in, or refrain from marking the presidential race at all. As long as you make the choice consciously and are prepared to deal with the consequences. What you can’t do is cast a positive vote for someone who actively supports the execution of children or seeks to destroy basic liberties, including freedom to PRACTICE your faith.

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        • al chandanais says:

          I spoke to a nurse the other day who was voting for Clinton, she hated Trump so her mind was made up. After finding out she was Christian I told her she couldn’t vote for Clinton. She had a puzzled look on her face so I explained that Hillary was pro choice, Pro Gender and Pro Homosexual marriage. I went on to tell her that her vote was saying that Clinton was correct to fundamentally ok to change the Church in America by forcing the church to allow the things I spoke of. The nurse looked at me and said she wouldn’t vote so I told her that wouldn’t work either because that means it’s not your job to speak your mind as to what happens in our country or the Religious Freedom so many have died for. I said we all have to answer to Father God one day for the things we do on earth. We have to make a decision as to whether we vote to protect the church and honor him or allow the enemies of the church to destroy it. We either vote for what is good and holy or we vote for the destruction of the church it’s that simple. We are told to vote for the lessor of two evil’s and Trump is certainly the lessor of the two. She looked down and away then said thank you, I don’t know which way she’ll vote but at least now she has the truth guiding her.

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          • Mick says:

            Al, maybe I missed something somewhere; but where are we told that as Christians we must vote for the lesser of two evils? If two choices are in fact evil, how in good conscience could I cooperate with evil by choosing one of them?

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          • al chandanais says:

            The servant who buried the gold coin was punished for doing nothing! What this only pertains to coins? No my brother as God has told us to use the people of the world to help us because they understand the way’s world better. We are to vote for the lessor threat to our country and our religious beliefs. That in my humble opinion is Trump.

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      • Doug says:

        I agree with you JG. If we have an election, I will be voting Trump because the alternative means we are guaranteeing the continued slaughtering of babies. This is the single biggest issue in that if we cannot value the human person, then there is no stopping the degradation of our culture. I see the biggest thing at stake being who will be the next supreme Court nominee? Even though Trump is not ideal in the pro life camp, he is our best shot at getting a pro life conservative judge.

        Now, more about dismissing the election with the assumption it does not matter. It could matter in the sense that if Trump wins, this can start a lefty revolt that causes a crises that leads to Mr. Obama not making it through his term. So in this sense, it may be important that we participate. So, I will be doing my civic duty this election cycle if we have one. In essence, I will continue to man my post until such time I am called to do differently. God bless you!

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        • jlynnbyrd says:

          Doug, I am thinking along the same lines as you as wait and see and I am not overly concerned with the elections. Even our state senator race gives us no good choice. The last email correspondence that I received from Mark Kirk ” An Independent Voice” I replied back to saying that I voted for Mark previously for his Republican voice and he failed me. I asked them to remove me from their lists.

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        • janet says:

          I heard today that Trump is losing ground because of his sexist remarks 11 years ago on the leaked tape. He has apologised and we are in the business of forgiving. I would definitely not like to hear what Hillary is saying in her campaign bus. Now that would be frightening!

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  43. Beckita says:

    Thanks Lion. I remember this prophecy and deeply respect Ralph Martin.

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  44. Alfred says:

    Here is the problem that the so-called liberal bishops rightly wrestle with: See CCC Para 1776 ff., especially para. 1782. Then consider Mt 7:1-3.

    If being an apostate should scare the bejeebers out of anyone who contravenes God and His Church, Mt 7:1 should scare the bejeebers out of those of us whose consciences are formed more in compliance with the Church’s teaching. And with respect to ourselves, note what the CCC says–formation of conscience is a lifelong endeavor. Who of us can judge a subjective conscience?

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  45. BD says:

    Well this is O/T but I thought I would share nevertheless. Hurricane Matthew is taking dead aim at us in south Florida and now my family has finally agreed with me that it is time to look at moving from Florida. So if I live through the hurricane I may actually get my wish to leave Florida after all. Perhaps the moral of this story is be careful what you wish for because it took a hurricane to convince my family to leave? But then again I prayed the Prayer of Miraculous Trust with the special intention that God would lead my family where we should be during the “Storm”. Would that make the moral of the story, God would send a hurricane if necessary to lead us where we should be during the “Storm”? Wow, please ponder this mystery with me as there is much to discern here. God is Good, God Bless to All…

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    • Beckita says:

      Praying for you and your family, BD, and all in the possible path of Hurricane Matthew. I can’t help but acknowledge that hurricanes surely come in many forms.

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    • jlynnbyrd says:

      BD, my sister lives in Chicago and has been in Orlando for since Monday at a nursing conference. She was going to return home today and now is scheduled to come home on Sunday, God-willing. I prayed the Prayer of Miraculous Trust that she and her colleagues and all the residents of the East Coast be spared loss of life and mass destruction of property. So I have been of the frame of mind that no matter where we are, we must trust and pray, and TNRS. Thanks be to God she is alright and last we spoke, was cuddling up with a good book she brought with her on her now extended trip!

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      • BD says:

        jlynnbyrd. I am glad your sister is ok and thanks for the prayers. I am in south Florida and live about 3-miles from the beach and I can honestly say it really wasn’t that bad at all for our location. I could truthfully add that we had a much worse storm the day Charlie came to town.

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        • charliej373 says:

          It was quite a Storm then, with two tornadoes, too. Stopped a busload from Port St. Lucie from getting to my talk.

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          • Doug says:

            Ha! Now there ya go again bringing more storms wherever you go 😊

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          • BD says:

            Doug, Charlie is the Rain Maker hee hee. The Rescue will come and go but I will never quit teasing Charlie about the dreadful storm the night I met him in Florida. 😉

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          • ykc says:

            We had devastating floods in NC from Hurricane Matthew. Of 15 people killed in the US, 7 were in NC. I would post photos if I knew how.

            My son was visiting his girlfriend’s house on Saturday afternoon, where she lives with her sorority sisters from NCSU. Two huge trees fell across both of their cars and on the house. Had they been in either car, they would have been killed. My husband is going to use this opportunity to talk to our son about the state of his soul. He is 21 years old and like most young people his age, doesn’t see anything wrong with having sex before marriage. I pray that he will understand before it is too late. Our children were taught properly. They have been given full knowledge. They have no excuses. Father, forgive them…

            St. Monica, pray for us!

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          • Beckita says:

            Praying for your son, YKC. How blessed is he to have a praying-for-him mother!

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        • jlynnbyrd says:

          BD, thank you and I am filled with joy to know many more have been and God-willing will be spared major devastation. ❤

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        • Prayers of thanksgiving too here after pulling thru safely (other than downed trees and debris from hurricane Mathew in central FL…)
          I returned from putting up my moms shutters in Stuart…also had my brother, wife and dog evac from S Fl too to come stay with us. Our Great Dane Bella thought this was just the best!
          They just drove home, arrived to find no damage really …and as walked into my moms villa the light came back on… praise God!
          But so very sad as we all pray for the souls in the rising death toll in Haiti. 🙏The people least prepared to endure a hit.😞 That satellite image circulating from Weather channel showing an eerie demonic infrared image as Mathew rolled over Haiti….shivers

          https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/hurricane-matthews-creepy-grin

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    • Mick says:

      BD, I’m praying for all of you to whom Hurricane Matthew is a threat.

      hurricane

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      • BD says:

        Thanks for the prayers Mick. Gee all these prayers we got down here in south FL really worked. It honestly was not bad in my area. God Bless

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        • Snowy Owl says:

          The Unity prayer/novena is really wonderful for storms too (all versions of storms 😉 – even Charlie’s 💨🌌⛈🌪 ) Jesus promises each time it is prayed, He will mitigate the storms a little- and also free and/or heal the Holy Souls, sinners and bring about conversions!

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          • Littlelight says:

            Snowy and Dan, I would be remiss if I did not tell you through this post, an ocean of God’s mercy was released.

            It went like this: Snowy posts about “Unity prayer/novena” Got me wondering what is this? I wanted to ask, but googled it instead. Then I thought, of course, Dan’s site! I felt drawn to do this today.

            So I have no idea if this is correct or not, so someone feel free to correct me please if I err. I was praying for relief from an urgent situation that’s only getting extremely worse. It is (almost) laughable how the situation keeps deteriorating. I started a novena to the Little Flower and St. Joseph. I don’t know why those, two, but they seemed right. So this is the part that I’m asking for correction on: it seems that those two heavy-hitter saints led me to this Unity novena today. It seems that sometimes it pleases God to direct my prayers/supplication to Him through certain devotions, and certain saints. It’s not like a magical formula, or anything like that at all. It just seems that sometimes it pleases our Lord to honor who He pleases as it suits Him. Sometimes it pleases Him to remain silent, and use our suffering as He wills, praise God!

            Certainly I can attest I received many, many, many blessings through this novena today. Jesus, King of All Nations, my King, my savior did what He promised (surprise there I know!).

            There was tangible, material help, for the body, help for the soul, and other help I received after finishing this novena today, +Praise you, Jesus, King of All Nations!+. Many small, wonderful coincidences that are meaningful to me.

            When I was praying, a military jet flew over low enough that it looked 8 inches big. It made me shiver. I got a sense of how much God loves us, how much He is listening and wants to help and protect us. I had a sense of my guardian angel praying with me. God was right at hand to me, listening. Just as Charlie says God is to any of us who reach out to Him. I don’t fully understand what happened, I’m too small, praise God! I do know it was very profound. I carry you all in my heart and beg you all to remember me/mine, too. I hope this isn’t over-the-top, please delete if you feel so, and my apologies.

            Let’s all keep on keeping on! God bless you All!

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          • Doug says:

            That’s wonderful Little light. It brings joy to my heart to hear of your little victory. I celebrate with you!

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          • Snowy Owl says:

            Amen, LittleLight 💕 I love this novena and the Little Flower has a special place here 🙂 how many of us she has helped! What you shared is beautiful! Thank you.

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          • jlynnbyrd says:

            Thanks be to God. Littlelight, thank you for your witness and to Snowy for the Unity Novena suggestion and to Dan for the Jesus King of All Nations devotion. One of my favorite sayings is, life is fragile, handle with prayer. 🙂

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        • Mick says:

          BD, I’m really glad to hear that the hurricane wasn’t bad in your locale. So, is your family still up for getting out of Florida?

          Continued prayers for Haiti, where (the last I heard) the death toll was around 800.

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          • BD says:

            Hey Mick, the storm was sufficient to convince all but my daughter and she had just moved to Miami for a new job. So she is staying put. The storm part was not bad but stores are struggling to get inventory back on the shelves and most gas stations remain closed until more gas can get delivered. I am also saddened so many died in Haiti. Just hard to believe how cruel mother nature can be.

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  46. jtbrannigan says:

    Lion: I was twenty-one and a young Christian on fire from contact with the Charismatic Renewal when that prophesy was given. It touched my spirit the first time I heard it and I have been living ever since watching for God’s plan to come to fruition. The words were heavily on my mind after 9/11. They have been more happily on my mind since I first encountered Charlie’s ministry this past spring. They are as fresh to me now as they were all those years ago.
    It is a fearful and awesome thing to fall into the hands of the Living God. I thank Him for allowing me to see bits and pieces of His developing plan and for the grace to understand that He is working behind, in, about and through it all.
    I hopefully await the fulfillment of His design and I am joyful to think that I may live to see these words and the rescue come to be.
    Thank you Lion for putting these words before us again.
    JT

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  47. madkatmomma says:

    Im going to hear David Danielian speak Oct 19. Im curious if he will mention the election. Ive pretty much decided im not going to vote for either senate candidate to replace Barbara Boxer. Kamala Harris is all but elected. Her opponent is also pro choice and not much better than Harris. Im thinking about doing the same and not voting for president. I cant abide Hillary and I think Trump is a caricature. I realize that in the end the election wont make a difference but in the meantime Im going along with my ordinary life until something changes…. Id like to hear what others of you are planning to do…ok I know, we arent supposed to make a plan, 👵🙏💨

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    • moreen67 says:

      I did my mail in vote – I wrote in who I wanted for President. Funny in my hometown there has only been one option for mayor.(I know that happens a lot in townships – in this case Democrats)…..2 guys just switch out for the post. The person for mayor is actually a nice guy who was just diagnosed with Stage IV prostate cancer and belongs to my Parish. Mo

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    • Doug says:

      Madkat, there is nothing wrong with making a plan. Wisdom dictates we live our lives with some prudence and making reasonable plans us prudent. Now, if you are over consumed by it, then that’s different. God bless you!

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    • Snowy Owl says:

      Madkat, I’m doing the same…and will either write someone in or not vote at all. Can’t stomach any of them and certainly cannot tolerate seeing them yak and lie. I have not set eye, ear or even a thought on the debates other than to pray for them.
      I can not wait until this is done and over with!

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      • janet says:

        Hey Snowy I’ve been watching the debates and listening to all things to do with this election. Not that I understand a lot of it..haha. There is a saying here….”If something happens in America it will soon come here” It would be nice if that certain something was going to be good..but alas we know it isn’t going to be good. I can’t wait until late 2017…Just a little over a year to go. Praise God!

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        • Snowy Owl says:

          Janet, I used read Breitbart- the England or London Edition (something like that) to keep up with what was going on over there..but I haven’t been reading any news lately, are things getting worse there or is it like it is here…simmering? I’ve been wondering which Country will go over the edge first.

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          • janet says:

            Spiritually the situation here is bleak, but it has been for a long time, Snowy. Everything bad is being promoted as good… It’s just too old fashioned to mention God in public over here!

            On the political front we just can’t get the truth. Corruption is widespread…no wonder seeing as God was thrown out a long time ago! Its all falling apart and the governments refuse to acknowledge the real problems. The people have their heads in the sand too…but not for long.

            Maranatha! Come Sweet Jesus, we need You.

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    • Alfred says:

      Ditto here–none of the above; at least at the top of the ticket. Both candidates for president are a reflection of where America is—on the brink of tyranny.

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  48. joncraft84 says:

    Will we have to go underground to protect our religion. I think maybe so,.

    Like

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