The Light Shines on in the Darkness

A man of incredible intellect and energy, Fr. Robert J. Spitzer, S.J., Ph.D., noticed a marked decrease in faith among college students when he was President of Gonzaga University, 1998-2009, so he founded the Magis Center with the following mission and goal in mind:

Our Mission: To provide a comprehensive and rational response to today’s “secular myths”.
Our Goal: To restore, reconstruct, and revitalize belief in God, the transcendent dignity of every human person, the significance of virtue, the higher levels of happiness, love, and freedom, and the real presence of Jesus Christ. We will find and return lost sheep to the Good Shepherd.

Through his research, Fr. Spitzer discovered four predominant myths which were contributing to the loss of faith in God and he set out to address them in his work:

The Conflict between Faith and Science.

The Conflict between Suffering and Love.

The Conflict between Christian Virtue and Freedom (and Moral Relativism)

Skepticism about the Significance and Reality of Jesus.

On Friday nights, Fr. Spitzer teaches and fields questions, based on his work, during his EWTN-hosted program, Fr. Spitzer’s Universe. Episodes of these programs can be found on You Tube. In addition to teaching via his dynamic speaking presentations, Father is a prolific writer and I highly recommend his latest book: The Light Shines on in the Darkness, Transforming Suffering through Faith (Happiness, Suffering and Transcendence)I’ll feature excerpts from this book in future posts because they are rich in discussing the theological foundations of suffering – not in an abstract way, but with real-life, heart-capturing ideas – and in offering concrete, practical prayers and exercises which facilitate our ability to remain connected with Christ, even during the most difficult trials.

We know, intellectually, we must trust God and, by His Grace, we continue to grow in this virtue as we strive to choose trust at all times. We also know this Storm will continue to intensify and, surely, we can see the necessity of such purification for our sick and troubled world. Charlie has often assured us that the events of the Storm will become an instrument to awaken God’s people and bring us back to complete reliance on Him. But how easily sane and serene thinking fly out the window when we’re saturated in chaos with commensurate intense emotions. My ardent desire in manning this post is to accomplish what we all on TNRS Team hold dear: we continue traversing the Storm, in solidarity, heartening, edifying, inspiring, interceding in prayer and supporting each other in any possible way, perhaps, in ways yet unseen. For now, let me more completely introduce Father’s new book, which was released on May 1st of this year, by including the following endorsements:

Simply one of the finest works ever compiled on the mystery of suffering. Fr. Robert Spitzer’s “The Light Shines On In The Darkness: Transforming Suffering through Faith (Happiness, Suffering, and Transcendence)” could be considered a “catechism of suffering,” but not one rooted in misery, but rather anchored in the experience of God’s great mercy and redemptive sacrifice. This is a book of hope and one that should be experienced by all Christians, and in particular, those who minister in any way shape or form in the New Evangelization. Why would a loving God allow suffering? Is there any good that can be brought forth from our trials? So much more is addressed in this opus. I could not put this book down. Pick it up, you won’t regret it!

“Suffering has the power to break or elevate the human spirit. Lived in the spirit of the Gospel and borne for the sake of others, it’s the most redemptive, transfiguring force in creation. Fr. Spitzer has written a magisterial work on the meaning of suffering, a work remarkable both for its depth and beauty.”
— Most Rev. Charles Chaput, O.F.M. Cap., Archbishop of Philadelphia

 

“In this trenchant and searching book, Fr. Spitzer responds to the most powerful objection to the proposition that God exists, namely, the problem of suffering. And he dares to do what very few are willing to do today: to articulate how evil and pain are ingredients in the providential design of a loving God.”
–Bishop Robert Barron, Host, Catholicism film series

 

“Fr. Spitzer draws not only from his singular intellect, but also from the deep well of his personal experience and suffering. God’s strength is made perfect in our weakness. It’s edifying to see how true this is even in a man of such stature. This book is ultimately about the personal crisis of suffering everybody goes through, but nobody’s prepared for. This book is invaluable.”
Scott Hahn, Ph.D., Author, Rome Sweet Home

A wonderful interview with Fr. Spitzer concerning his new book is found here.

From Charlie’s post about the Prayer of Miraculous Trust:

“A prayer to abandon yourself to trust in God; to bind yourself to His will with trust rather than trying to bind Him to yours. Pope Francis called Our Lady of Guadalupe the “Virgin of Tepeyac” at her last feast day. Tepeyac Hill is where she appeared, not Guadalupe, hence the title Our Lady of Tepeyac, Mother of Conversion. At its deepest level, this is a prayer that we all convert ourselves to God’s Holy Will.

Back of card: PRAYER OF MIRACULOUS TRUST:  (This prayer is to help you turn things over to God, trusting that once you have done so, whatever He then allows is for your eternal good and that of those you love.  It lets you ask what you want of God, then closes by abandoning yourself to what God wants of you.  Do not say it more than once for any particular intention, as this is an abandonment to trust)

Begin by asking for the help of Our Lady of Tepeyac, then cross yourself and say:

By the power of Our Lord, Jesus Christ; to the honor of Our Lady, the Immaculate Conception; in service to her Immaculate Heart; I ask you Lord (state intention here and ask for the intercession of the saint of your choice).  I thank you for hearing my prayer.  Thy will be done.  Amen.

Cross yourself again, and give it over to God entirely with trust.”

I saw a pithy saying last week I will end with: “Don’t worry about tomorrow. God is already there.”

 

About Beckita

Beckita, widow, mother and grandmother, lives in Missoula, Montana. After more than thirty years of service, she retired from two careers: elementary school educator and director of liturgical music ministry in a local parish. Serving the Catholic Church in many capacities since early childhood, she now provides care for a nearly 90 year old priest of Chinese origin and collaborates with him in evangelizing the Chinese people. For more than twenty-five years, she has welcomed words from heaven concerning these sobering times in which we live and, like so many, takes seriously Our Lord and Our Lady’s call to intercede for the return of souls to God. Responding to heaven’s call for prayer, for her, included making pilgrimages to shrines in Europe, Asia and South America. She says these travels, added to her years as a Peace Corps volunteer in West Africa in the mid-seventies, have expanded her heart to hold dear all peoples of the world. She is a longtime member of TNRS community and when she began reading Charlie’s posts, immediately, she found that his mission and message harmonize well with Church approved private revelation of our times. In September 2015, she accepted an invitation to become part of TNRS Answers Team. As events of the Storm evolved, last fall (2016), she accepted Charlie’s invitation to become managing editor of TNRS should he need to leave the site. With great gratitude to and for Charlie, founder of TNRS, and with great respect and admiration for the lifelong experiences and God-given gifts he brought to bear on his work at this site - she knows we all know he’s irreplaceable – still, she considers it a great privilege to serve the TNRS community.
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103 Responses to The Light Shines on in the Darkness

  1. SteveBC says:

    Thank you, Beckita. One of the more surprising learnings that I have received in being a member of this community is on this very point. I have seen many people here who are suffering but who stand and use it for Good. It is heart-warming, heart-breaking, and inspiring to see how people bear pain and its harder version, suffering, so well here among us. My own approach to pain and suffering has changed ever so gradually in response to the many examples I have read about in comments all over this site. May all those here who are suffering be blessed with the strength to bear up under it and the grace to transmute it into spiritual gold for the benefit of God, neighbor, and self.

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    • Beckita says:

      Beautiful, Steve. And Amen to your precious prayer: “May all those here who are suffering be blessed with the strength to bear up under it and the grace to transmute it into spiritual gold for the benefit of God, neighbor, and self.”

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  2. Karen says:

    Thank you for highlighting the writings of Fr Spitzer and the Magis Centre Beckita. I look forward to reading the excerpts you choose. And very much with you on this “My ardent desire……perhaps, in ways unseen.” BTW, you are doing exceptionally well achievement-wise👏.

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    • Beckita says:

      God bless you, Dear Karen. Thank you. Please, in a general way, how are you doing amidst the trials with which you’ve been contending recently? Prayers again for you this night.

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      • Karen says:

        Thank you very much, and all here too, for your heart-felt prayers – in the glorious economy of God’s own Plan I am sure I am experiencing the beautiful effect of each one of them. I truly believe (if only I would take more time to reflect on such things!) these prayers have dulled the piercing points and rounded off the sharp stones – the path has evened out a bit and is currently a manageable walk, thank you for asking dear Beckita. I pray the same effects for you and your family and not forgetting dear Fr Wang – I have resisted asking you how he is coping, leaving it all for the Lord. Previously I expressed the feeling of being carried through the Storm by Jesus and now I am wondering that this might be so, wholly and completely, by the power of everyone’s loving concern and sincere prayers – if this is the case then I am greatly humbled and indebted to all! Knowing how well or how badly I might react in the difficult circumstances He seems to allow a certain sized cross for a limited amount of time – enough to be useful for Him but not enough to make me throw in the towel – praise Him for His Goodness and Mercy – we are all in this together. Perhaps Fr Spitzer’s own words will enlighten us all on the Economy of Suffering.

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        • Beckita says:

          Beautiful, Karen. Without the great faith which has been fostered here, and by the cloud of witnesses who have gone before us, I would be crushed by the trials. Instead, through the generous intercessory prayers of so many with the concern and encouragement expressed by friends, grace is procured for slogging through the cross-carrying with family. Father’s infection is totally healed, praise God. He is yet so fatigued and will be 89 in a few months so this may be his now normal. Whatever God wants, we want. God bless you and all our friends here.

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  3. Ditto what SteveBC said! I have found so much inspiration and hope among the comments of your readers who have SO many struggles, and seem to bear them with such grace and humility! I learn better coping skills and have gained greater confidence in abandoning all to God, through their trials. God bless them all! I also love the Prayer of Miraculous Trust….I use it often.

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  4. Sean Sullivan says:

    Upon completing my daily evening prayer in the Liturgy of the Hours, I opened up my Bible to the following verse. It speaks of the Storm and of God’s unfathomable mercy.

    Catholic Study Bible

    Ezekiel 36:16-38

    16 16The word of the LORD came to me:

    17 17″Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ways and their doings; their conduct before me was like the uncleanness of a woman in her impurity.

    18 18So I poured out my wrath upon them for the blood which they had shed in the land, for the idols with which they had defiled it.

    19 19I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed through the countries; in accordance with their conduct and their deeds I judged them.

    20 20But when they came to the nations, wherever they came, they profaned my holy name, in that men said of them, ‘These are the people of the LORD, and yet they had to go out of his land.’

    21 21But I had concern for my holy name, which the house of Israel caused to be profaned among the nations to which they came.

    22 22″Therefore say to the house of Israel, Thus says the Lord GOD: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am about to act, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations to which you came.

    23 23And I will vindicate the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, and which you have profaned among them; and the nations will know that I am the LORD, says the Lord GOD, when through you I vindicate my holiness before their eyes.

    24 24For I will take you from the nations, and gather you from all the countries, and bring you into your own land.

    25 I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you.

    26 A new heart I will give you, and a new spirit I will put within you; and I will take out of your flesh the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to observe my ordinances.

    28 28You shall dwell in the land which I gave to your fathers; and you shall be my people, and I will be your God.

    29 29And I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses; and I will summon the grain and make it abundant and lay no famine upon you.

    30 30I will make the fruit of the tree and the increase of the field abundant, that you may never again suffer the disgrace of famine among the nations.

    31 Then you will remember your evil ways, and your deeds that were not good; and you will loathe yourselves for your iniquities and your abominable deeds.

    32 32It is not for your sake that I will act, says the Lord GOD; let that be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your ways, O house of Israel.

    33 33″Thus says the Lord GOD: On the day that I cleanse you from all your iniquities, I will cause the cities to be inhabited, and the waste places shall be rebuilt.

    34 34And the land that was desolate shall be tilled, instead of being the desolation that it was in the sight of all who passed by.

    35 35And they will say, ‘This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are now inhabited and fortified.’

    36 36Then the nations that are left round about you shall know that I, the LORD, have rebuilt the ruined places, and replanted that which was desolate; I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it.

    37 37″Thus says the Lord GOD: This also I will let the house of Israel ask me to do for them: to increase their men like a flock.

    38 Like the flock for sacrifices,like the flock at Jerusalem during her appointed feasts, so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men. Then they will know that I am the LORD.”

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    • Beckita says:

      May it be, once again, Sean, that God’s people awake from their spiritual sleep to repent and receive His Mercy. May all of us, at TNRS and beyond, continue to proclaim in our lives, at each moment, that God, only and forever, acts from Pure Love in His Infinite Goodness, as we do our little part, acknowledging Him, taking each next right step and allowing Him to make of us a sign of His Hope.

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  5. These days, I find I am beneath the crosses of many of my friends and loved ones, especially those who are fighting the battle against cancer. Sometimes I have the strength to stand like Mary. The Virgin Mother stood beneath the cross of suffering, her emotional pain and heartbreak giving strength to her Divine Son whose physical suffering would bring about our redemption. In this act of cooperation in our redemption, she proves herself worthy of the title of CoRedemptrix.

    Most times, I am like the Magdalene, clinging to the foot of the cross as if to somehow transfer the pain to myself and take it from the ones I love. Sometimes I feel as if I will lose my sanity when the grief overwhelms my heart. How blessed I am that I can look to Jesus’ Mother as a sign to renew my strength.

    And sometimes, I am like the beloved disciple, gathering the Precious drops of the Saviour’s Blood and interceding for poor sinners. When we personally suffer, it is one thing because we are united with Christ on the cross, as Mother Theresa said, Christ is kissing us from His cross. At the Saviour’s direction, we, like St. John, take Mary as our own Mother and live with her henceforth in our own homes. As we suffer or as we watch those whom we love suffer, we also can intercede for them and learn at the school of the cross how to lead sinners to Jesus.

    I pray for all of us who witness the suffering of others and find ourselves united with these three figures. And for those who themselves are on a cross of pain, find joy in the fact that you are so close to Jesus. I pray for all before the Risen, Triumphant Lord, present in adoration chapels all over the world. May God bless Fr. Spitzer and all who remain here.

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  6. CrewDog says:

    Speaking of the need for Light into Darkness, I think that Patrice does a pretty good job of explaining “What’s – What” to young people and misguided older people … including the “Leadership” and all too many clergy of The Church …. Catholic & Protestant …. and Jewish!!
    “14 LESSONS FOR STUPID PEOPLE”
    Exclusive: Patrice Lewis attempts to educate anti-capitalists protesting G20 summit
    http://www.wnd.com/2017/07/14-lessons-for-stupid-people/

    Patrice sounds like somebody that would be a great neighbor … especially…. “these days”!!! http://www.patricelewis.com/index.html

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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  7. madkatmomma says:

    Peace and love to you all! Fr. Spitzer is a rock star – I’ve heard him speak several times and he is so compelling. I will definitely get his new book. Did y’all know he is an astrophysicist? His book and lecture on the scientific proofs for the existence of God is amazing.

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  8. avaeadie says:

    I am in the middle of about 50 books, but this sounds like another good one to get started on…especially for these times…thank you for the recommendation…

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    • SanSan says:

      Time to add this one too…..Refuge from Heaven, by American Mystic and Servant of God, Cora Evans. Want to go “deeper” in Scripture? Well here you go. There are no words……”Awe” sums it up best for me.

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  9. Phillip Frank says:

    “But how easily sane and serene thinking fly out the window when we’re saturated in chaos with commensurate intense emotions. ”
    “I will strike the Shepard and the sheep will scatter”.(Mathew 26:31).
    Be not surprised when, in crisis, we too shrink with fright and confusion.
    As our leaders (shepards) in the church faulter and create confusion it is not surprising to see its people scattered. In our battle to remain faithful it is good to remember we are called the church militant…and for good reason.
    Soldiers are trained, over and over how to fight so it becomes second nature to them so when the chaos is upon them, they automatically know what to do.
    Virtue is a good “habit”. It is “practicing” your faith. When faith becomes a habit it becomes part of who you are and is naturally lived. If we “practice” living, believing and acting like a Christian, we will remain doing so even in chaos.
    Of course, it is through God that “all good things come” so it can’t be just an act we are putting on.
    These “little” trials that we live day-by-day are the practice we need for the bigger “battles” we will have throughout our lives and especially the one at the end of our life,
    ( pray for us now and at the hour of our death). These smaller trials give us a good look at who we really are and where we need shuring up the most. A ship will make trial runs in calm seas to assure it is sea worthy. This is the time to check for leaks and loose timbers so that if a gail comes the men can be assured of its strength through the storm.
    We are no different than that ship.
    God “tests” us for flaws and weaknesses so we can assess ourselves and through access to His grace, be made whole.
    Funny thing is; when we are weak- He is strong! So our strength comes through our reliance on Him and not in ourselves. It comes through “dying to ones self” and not through “self help” books. It comes through “becoming like these little ones” and not through “empowerment” programs. It comes through being “meek and humble of heart” and not through a self-righteous mindset.
    I think it important to recognize that we are not better, holier, more loved or more righteous than others but that we have simply been made aware of these things through the gift of faith and have accepted this gift in holy fear, as we now are responsible to carry the weight of the whole world upon our shoulders. (Jesus to Sr. Faustina).
    “And to whom much is given, much is expected.”

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  10. Two thumbs up for Father Spitzer. I wonder the reason he chose the stag of Sts. Eustace and Hubert for the cover of his book. Is there a connection or was it simply a luminous vision these men had that makes for a cool cover?

    The icon is more infamously used on bottles of Jägermeister, but I’ll pass on the Jäger Bombs (for they can cause great suffering the following morning).

    Update: found an apartment, moving in hopefully next week. Back’s doing better. Starting school next month. Mimi is OK.

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    • Beckita says:

      Thanks for the update, Patrick. Prayers for you in the transition. Thanks, too, for the beautiful image. A quick search about the stag led me to discover a connection to the founder of the Jesuits, St. Aloyisius Gonzaga. Look here and here. Keep us updated with your progress. Give Mimi a good scratch from TNRS, please. 😉

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      • Beckita says:

        Thank God for Joecro who brought to my attention that St Aloyisius Gonzaga is *not* the founder of the Jesuits – rather, it was St. Ignatius of Loyola. My bad. Nevertheless, I’m quite sure that Fr. Spitzer, a Jesuit who was president of Gonzaga University, surely felt a strong connection to St.Aloyisius Gonzaga.

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        • Joe Crozier says:

          Hi Becks
          I am sure St Ig was ok with it. He may not even have noticed and young St Al can now safely take the mick out of his boss! Heaven will be fun. They don’t make mistakes there so they need us to provide the laughs.

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    • jlynnbyrd says:

      Great news, thanks be to God! ❤

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  11. Joe Crozier says:

    Thank you to everyone for the prayers said for my brother who had a heart attack at the weekend. I am pleased to report he is doing well and should be fine. D.G.

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  12. audiemarie2014 says:

    Maybe I’ve missed some comments (most likely), but has anyone heard from Snowy lately?

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  13. CrewDog says:

    Today’s verse seems like another GoodOne for “These Days” 😉

    HeartLight Daily Verse – 10 July

    Philippians 1:6
    He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
    Thoughts on today’s verse:
    God made the world in 6 days. Now he sustains it with his powerful word. But in each of us, he is still at work and will continue to work to his glory (see Philippians 2:12-13) until Christ comes to take us home!
    Prayer:
    Thank you Father, for being at work in my life. I confess that at times you seem distant, but looking back over the crucial moments where things were held in the balance, I can see your fingerprints and your grace leading me to where I am today. Please make your presence more powerfully known in my life as I seek your will and live to your glory. Through Jesus I pray. Amen.
    Visit heartlight.org for more

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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  14. James Ignatius McAuley says:

    Prayers for everyone here in the month traditionally dedicated to the Precious Blood.
    By saying no to sin and stopping bad behaviors, we can see how our past sins have caused others to sin. So, forgive, be patient, do not go back to the past bad behavior, do not retaliate and pray. What a blessed wake up call God has given me and others.

    Just to state the obvious, but there is a lot of positive, uplifting material on this website – Norman Vincent Peale “ain’t got nothing on this!” It is great and the real deal – It is not delusional pie (mmm pie!) in the sky silliness, or the emotional feel goodisms of the heretical prosperity gospel. Don’tcha love it?

    As Crew Dog says, “God save all here!”

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  15. I came across this excellent article, partially titled “Joan Of Art”. The historical story is wonderful, of course, and so are the paintings;

    http://religionnews.com/2017/07/10/joan-of-art-medieval-mystic-maintains-hold-on-the-artistic-imagination/

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  16. Jan says:

    How do we know that the Prayer of Miraculous Trust was really dictated to Charlie by an angel? Charlie said that an angel told him there would be no presidential election. Charlie either misunderstood what that angel told him, or that angel gave him false information. So therefore how do we know that the words of this Miraculous Trust prayer was really given to Charlie by an angel, and that we should be saying it? Was it the same angel that told Charlie there would be no presidential election who gave him this prayer? Or maybe Charlie misunderstood the angel who gave him the words of this prayer in the same way he misunderstood the prophecy about the presidential election. I used to read this website but now I don’t know what parts are true and what is not anymore. God bless.

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    • Beckita says:

      Jan, I understand your concern. At the same time, anyone who has read this site, over time, can recall God has worked with Charlie in ways unlike any other prophet/mystic. Charlie has often conveyed that his life was one of training in that he received various forms of mystical input and then took responsibility for discerning how he was to act. He has told us that, especially in the early years, he made many errors which his angel often corrected. We can recall this passage from his article, A Reality Check: “My angel rarely congratulates me for being right. Rather, if I am in serious error, he rebukes and corrects me. Many of the greatest saints have been deceived by the devil for a time. I have no illusion that I am exempt from that. So what if I was deceived for a time and my angel, for whatever reason, did not correct me? Do you think that would be so God could abandon or destroy you? Of course not! Everything that God allows is for our good and our reclamation. I know that, I have no doubt at all of it.”

      He even told us he would make at least one if not more major errors in this year. That was also told in his piece, A Reality Check: “Sometime in the next year, I will be significantly wrong about something. It won’t be the Rescue, but it will be something. When it comes, it will not be a test of me, for I already know that God is good and seeks our reclamation. It will be a test for some of you, to see whether you have put your faith in me or your faith in God. If it is in me, your faith was always ill-placed. God is good, all the time, whatever the circumstances – and works to call us all back to Him. When I am wrong, I will accept the correction with gratitude and more wisdom. I will not leave the scene unless it is one of the fundamentals, and then, in full obedience to Holy Church, I will wait on the Lord, knowing that He will strengthen my heart and that it serves His purpose to call all His children back to Him.”

      When I first came to TNRS site, I had studied and been exposed to a lot of Church approved prophecy. After seriously reading this site by going through the archives, I found Charlie’s words and work harmonized beautifully with the prophecy of which I was already aware. As I read on and on, I discovered that, just as Charlie said, a HUGE part of what he was about was preparing us for *what* to do rather than focusing us on what would happen.

      Now, with the inaugural prophecy, Charlie fully admitted he made a serious blunder, just as he had prophesied he would make a big mistake. With the ways God has worked with Charlie all his life, one can see that is not a problem for God. We look around this country and world and see the level of chaos, confusion and division. I firmly believe God yet has work for Charlie to accomplish. But we must remember, even Charlie often expressed that he doesn’t ask for any more details than he needs moving forward. So Charlie is acknowledging God, taking next right steps and remaining a sign of hope just as we strive to do.

      As for the PMT, I would say the proof is in the pudding. Just please remember, no matter which prayer one uses, praying with great faith, as we read about in the Gospel today, and praying from the heart with total trust is the key ingredient when asking for anything with any prayer. When prayed with sincerity of heart, I have experienced God’s response to the Prayer of Miraculous Trust. God bless you, Jan, and all here.

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    • dolordee says:

      It worked for me every time. Even saved a life of a person trying to jump out of a moving car, and someone called me and told me to hurry and pray. I said the Miraculous Trust prayer, and when he tried again and opened the door his seat belt malfunctioned and locked and couldn’t be opened. Try it before you put it down, you might be surprised. God bless.

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    • I’ve read Beckita’s response, Jan, and I have exactly the same concerns as you do. For us, this isn’t a test of our faith in Charlie, because God wants us to trust Him, and Him alone. We should never place that same level of trust in a prophet as we would God.

      A prophet like Charlie proves that his messages come from the Lord purely by their accuracy and track record. Charlie’s first three prophecies, at least those since I started visiting this board, were (I hope that I have them right);

      1 – President Obama would not complete his Presidential term.
      2 – There would not be a normal Presidential election.
      3 – The next President would come from outside the normal methods of election.

      They were all incorrect, as per my assessment of the events. This is confirmed by Charlie who withdrew from the site due to their failure.

      Now, on that basis, can we trust the subsequent prophecies from Charlie? Again, in my opinion, we’re in a wait and see mode. The way that I am approaching this is to wait for the War with China, the collapse of Islam, and the subsequent intervention of Russia who will come to help us defeat the Chinese attack. In the course of these events, 26 million people will die as a result of this War.

      It is now July 10th, 2017, and these events should occur by late September, 2017, which leaves about 2 months and 3 weeks at most. Then we should see a miraculous intervention by Mary. If I have the prophecies, and their timing, correct we will have adequate clear signs to tell us whether these events have happened.

      I have written the above in the hope of helping anyone in Jan’s position who is wondering about the current status and what we should expect before late September. If I have made a mistake about anything, please tell me.

      Dave.

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      • Beckita says:

        Excellent point, Dave: “For us, this isn’t a test of our faith in Charlie, because God wants us to trust Him, and Him alone. We should never place that same level of trust in a prophet as we would God.” And the one who has most repeatedly professed this truth is Charlie himself. We see it written by him, again and again, on the pages of these archives. We hear it spoken by him, repeatedly, in the visit videos.

        All that acknowledged, a prophet is a tool in the Hands of God and the prophet is subject to the ways God chooses to unfold His Plans at any point in salvation history. This is another truth Charlie, unfailingly, professed about his work. The Plan is God’s, not Charlie’s. For many years I have studied prophecy and mystical encounters with erudite priests who were also steeped in knowledge and understandings of Mariology, general theology and Biblical truths. Authentic prophets cannot be reduced to a list of details. It’s so much more complicated than that. God, Who deemed that Charlie be granted the mystical input he received, is not subject to it. As gently and firmly as I can convey in written form, for the sake of emphasis, I repeat:

        God is not subject to the prophetic input He has granted Charlie.

        Charlie is not the push-button prophet calling the shots. God is, now, and God will continue to shape the events of this Storm with primacy of focus on the sublime purpose of saving as many souls as possible.

        In other words, there are many factors which God takes into account as He acts in our time, not the least of which is the response of His people. Our prayers, sacrifices and good works mitigate the originally stated events. They do. Another factor in determining authenticity is the character of the prophet. I have observed and come to know of Charlie’s humility, honesty, generosity, integrity, prayerfulness, loving service, and tireless dedication to the work he has been given. He lives, breathes and sleeps love of God and His people. He is NOT my guru, my idol or my spiritual fulfillment. God is my everything and our God Who uses anyone willing to surrender his/her life to Him will choose each and every one of us for mission. It just so happens, He has chosen Charlie for this NEW WAY of working with a prophet. Yes, working WITH Charlie. God asks us to co-create in many, varied and, often, unusual ways. We who have formed this community at TNRS work in tandem with Charlie as God calls us to whatever post each one gives fiat to man.

        In truth Charlie stated: “Whether I was deceived or I badly misinterpreted, I made a terrible blunder in how I interpreted that Obama would not finish his full term. I get many people asking how that affects the rest of what I wrote, hopeful that the rest is true. One of the frustrations I often had was that people constantly had the wrong idea about all of this. It is not simple. I am not a seer, given simple messages to pass on verbatim. I was called to act and to do: to defend the faith, hearten the faithful, and defend the faithful. God uses each man’s authentic personality in the work He assigns – and expects that man to figure it out. Throughout the Bible, God frequently responds to the questions of the nervous servants He sends by simply saying, “I will be with you,” while not answering their direct question. I think I best expressed a simulacrum of how it is in the piece, “Through a Glass Darkly.” In the end, you must assess for yourself. Look at the full body of my work. After the inauguration, I saw that that was not the only thing I had misinterpreted. Yet on the larger picture, the trajectory and sweep of the cultural breakdown, the worldwide descent into a global civil war fought on cultural lines, I have been consistently dead on. I always maintained that believing was not enough: you had to choose to serve, whatever the cost.

        Despite the pain of the very public error, it did not change anything substantial for me. I did not make my promise to God based on always being right and never the object of opprobrium. God forbid I should be found to be a mere sunshine soldier, happy to march along so long as everything went as I expected and then fleeing my post as soon as danger or humiliation reared its ugly head. Love is the only motivation powerful enough to sustain a good purpose in trying times; love of God and love of your fellows. True love can only exist in the context of true humility: the determination that you will lay it all out, accept honorably and take responsibility for your mistakes and then soldier on. In the last four months, I have been deeply involved in some pro-life initiatives, am in the process of writing a short book I hope will help people see that Christianity is not just true, but is the practical secret to happiness. I want, particularly, those who have their faith shaken by larger events (whether it is a Christian or functionally pagan faith) to see Christianity for what it is at its most basic level and give it serious new consideration. It is harder and taking longer than I expected.”

        I do not mean this in anyway but heartfelt concern. I do not aim the next thought at any one person. I simply state truth: We must be very cautious in discerning prophecy. It is too easy to suddenly become one who is telling Our Lord and/or Our Lady how to conduct their communication with a chosen instrument.

        Now doolordee has witnessed to the efficacy of the PMT. The promises attached to its use are not contingent on how the details of this Storm play out. Whether or not God fulfills every detail of the prophetic framework as Charlie originally, in truth and honest discernment, conveyed… IS in the Hands of God. HE is the Master of the Storm. He will act in a multitude of surprising ways as He has done throughout salvation history. WIth as much kindness as can be expressed in electronic communication, I remind us all – me included – do not reduce prophecy to details. We can look around and see pending danger everywhere in the world. The darkness is darkening. God needs a multitude of people willing to minister to the many in each of our locales who will need our care. To accomplish this work we must continue to acknowledge God, take our next right steps and be a sign of hope to all who are near to us.

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        • This is why I express myself in seemingly off-topic stories here. Alleged mystical experiences/prophetic words from God can seem huge, difficult and fraught with challenges… but really, it’s just one little part. Certainly, as you’ve said on numerous occasions, people can discern and believe what they see fit. Keep what’s good, toss the rest. If someone says, “I feel called to exhort us all to pray for one another, redoubling our efforts.” That, to me, would constitute a good prophetic word that no one need second guess.

          As you, James, and many others have pointed out, there’s much light to be shared by each, in the unique ways each is equipped to deliver it. Maybe if we each sung our little part well, we might actually hear the chorus through the choir members. Or maybe we need to get a choir sign-up drive going, or some such. Heck, maybe we start with a bake sale… there’s nothing like a good bake sale. Put me down for pie on the sign-up sheet.

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        • Janet says:

          “He acts in our time, not the least of which is the response of His people. Our prayers, sacrifices and good works mitigate the originally stated events. They do. ”

          Thanks Beckita..I sincerely believe this too. Remembering Ninevah who repented. 🙂

          God Bless you and all here.

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      • Josh says:

        Hi Dave,

        I would like to express my concern with your interpretation of the 26 Million casualties that would happen within two months from now, as a result of a war with China. I have asked Charlie many times about a specific historical time frame, and he has never given me a clear answer about this.

        When Charlie has recently published new articles since the failure of his prediction about the presidential election, I have decided to take them only as “personal opinion”, and no longer as “prophecy”. I also no longer like this kind of prideful attitude of claiming special “insider knowledge” above the rest of mortal human beings, and failing miserably in the predictions. Since I also live outside of the United States, I have even less of an obligation to follow him as a prophet.

        I also have concerns about his prediction of Mount Meeker becoming “the most visited pilgrimage place of the world” (I see no specific reason for this)), when the Basilica of Guadalupe in Mexico already receives 22-25 Million visitors annually.

        God Bless You.

        PS. I have written this to you, instead of sending it to Beckita (but some of my concerns are also for her, and for Charlie Johnston and his followers).

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        • Beckita says:

          Well, Josh, no one, in or out of the USA, has any obligation to believe in any private revelation. The Church states this clearly in the CCC. We are each free to discern in these matters. Your words convey you have discerned that Charlie is not authentic in his prophetic utterances. That’s fine. God bless you. It sounds as though you wish to convince others of your beliefs. Perhaps, a better place for that discussion is with a spiritual director or at another site. I say this because the hour is late – figuratively speaking. The purpose of this community is to engage in conversations which continue to hearten us, build each other up – not bash each other or tear each other down – and to bring hope to one another in the current darkness of our times while praying for one another and offering practical assistance as well.

          On some sites, there is talk that Charlie only clears comments that support him. This is falsehood. Charlie has not cleared comments since he entered his time of silence six months ago. SteveBC and I share the task of clearing comments and I have trashed a bunch of accusative, trollish comments (edit: and so has Steve) which do not meet the criterion of the Comment Policy. I hesitated to let this one through but decided to do so that we all might review the importance of respectful dialogue. No one here deserves to be smeared with accusations and false claims as you have characterized Charlie. Having concerns is valid. Denigrating people, anyone in this community or out of it, is not acceptable.

          There has been much discussion in the comments sections since January about surrendering all details to the Lord, for indeed, the Plan is His. No need to be concerned if we have taken Charlie’s advice and focused on the little we can do, both now and should the Storm, or purification, get tough – which fully Church-approved prophecy has told us will happen, if God deems it necessary. I, personally, believe we’re in for a mighty rough ride and I choose to trust God through it all if He does allow us to be purified thusly. His Justice is the very fiber of His Mercy.

          Charlie said it very well in this missive he has shared: “If, somehow, this darkness fades away without the need for battle or confrontation, I will be deeply grateful and enjoy my retirement. But if as seems likely, it degenerates into a great struggle, I pray to do my little duty faithfully until the end, knowing that God will set all things right again in His good time and endeavoring to cooperate with Him in driving away the smoke that has obscured the glorious light of Christ in this poor, bleeding world of ours. You probably assume that I have reason for sending you such a long rambling missive. I don’t know exactly what is going to happen or when, but if it does, I wanted to share with you some of the mainstays of what guide me in hopes that some of it may fortify you whatever challenges come…”

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          • Josh says:

            Hi Beckita,

            Thanks for your answer. I had not sent any comment for more than 8 months, and I have written only from time to time, mainly to ask for clarifications (eg. the “26 Million casualties” of the Storm), so this can hardly be considered trollish activity (although I have to be careful with the way I write things).

            My other concern is with the general political orientation of Charlie Johnston’s website, which I think tends to be on the right wing of the ideological spectrum (maybe in part to correct the excesses from the left), and for this reason he will not be able to appeal to everybody (even if he ideally wants to do so with all people of good will).

            I do not agree with him when he tends to characterize all the left as “godless”, and the right implicitly as “godly”. Even less with the idea that to be a Christian means to be a political conservative. Pope Francis has clearly stated that his ideological colors tend to be on the left side of the political spectrum, although he is open to dialogue with all people.

            I think that Christ is the only one fully capable of standing perfectly at the “Centre” of any ideological spectrum, whereas other humans tend to lean either to the left or to the right, to correct each other’s excesses.

            God Bless You.

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          • Beckita says:

            Josh, Thank you for owning this: “…although I have to be careful with the way I write things.” I remember you as a member of this community with many questions. Dialogue is always welcome. I used trollish in the sense of people who come to accuse and incite upset.

            What I don’t get is why you’ve come here to express your “concerns.” You’re ultimately saying you disagree with Charlie, as if your mind is made up. Of course, you have every right to do so. But why be concerned about a man who expresses truth as he sees it? A man who brings refreshing insight – across a wide spectrum of issues related to our current turmoil, based on knowledge gained through his voracious reading of history – both national and world – politics, philosophy, theology and God knows what else. (Wish I could say I have read the Bible more than thirty times.) Then there’s the expertise Charlie’s life experiecnes have brought via his work in the political realm. We are not only refreshed but blessed with Charlie’s writings because I firmly believe the battle in the heavens of which Pope St. John Paul II spoke is in its fiercest moments right now, being engaged, precisely, in the arena of politics:

            “We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel.
            “We must be prepared to undergo great trials in the not-too-distant future; trials that will require us to be ready to give up even our lives, and a total gift of self to Christ and for Christ. Through your prayers and mine, it is possible to alleviate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it. . . .How many times has the renewal of the Church been brought about in blood! It will not be different this time.”

            – Bicentennial talk given in the United States by the future St. John Paul II, then Cardinal Karol Wojtyla of Kraków, Poland

            As I see it, the general political orientation of this site is based on standing with Christ. Christ as focus of our worship and adoration and Christ’s Truth in the Gospels and in His Church’s Magisterial Teaching as the guide of our life in the public square. Many are the spiritual writing heroes of our times who have repeatedly expressed thoughts synonymous with those you read here. If Christ is to be imaged as standing at the Center, He only looks at hearts on the left and the right. He knows full well who has Chosen Him and His Teachings as well as who persists in error. What I fear most in these times is the warning the Lord gave in Matthew 7:22-23:
            “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

            There are two pieces which, I believe address your concerns, this and this. If you disagree, you disagree. Wishing you well, Josh. To you and all who are part of this community: “The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face shine on you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace.”

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    • Jan, you ask a valid question which has brought forth fruitful discussion. Thanks.

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    • jlynnbyrd says:

      Jan, I have received many graces and blessings from praying the Prayer Of Miraculous Trust. I thought I’d respond to your expressed concern relating to the prayer itself as an exercise in catechesis for myself today and I will share my selected findings.

      Begin by asking for the help of Our Lady of Tepeyac,
      When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, ‘Woman, behold, your son!’. Then he said to the disciple, ‘Behold, your mother!’ (Jn 19:26-27)

      Then cross yourself* and say:
      *Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, (Mathew 28:19)

      By the power of Our Lord, Jesus Christ;
      And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

      To the Honor of Our Lady; the Immaculate Conception;
      The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” (Luke 1:28)
      Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, “full of grace” through God, was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854: The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin, (CCC, 491)

      In service to her Immaculate Heart;
      But Mary kept all these words, pondering them in her heart. (Luke 2:19) And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them. And his mother kept all these words in her heart. (Luke 2:51)

      I ask you Lord (state intention here…
      So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. (Luke 11:9)

      …and ask for the intercession of the saint of your choice).
      The fervent prayer of a righteous man is very powerful (Jas 5:16). Those in heaven are surely righteous, since nothing unclean can enter heaven (Rv 21:27). Those in heaven are part of the Mystical Body of Christ and have not been separated from us by death, but surround us as a great cloud of witnesses (Heb 12:1). They stand before the throne of God and offer our prayers to him (Rv 5:8) and cheer us on as we run the good race. Intercession among members of the body of Christ is pleasing to God (1 Tm 2:1-4) and even commanded by him (Jn 15:17).

      I thank you for hearing my prayer.
      Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; his love endures forever. (1 Chronicles 16:34)

      Thy will be done.
      your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. (Matthew 6:10)

      Amen.
      saying: “Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!” (Revelation 7:12)

      Cross yourself* again, and give it over to God entirely with trust
      May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit. (Romans 15:13)

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    • Patricia says:

      Charlie was right about so much, being wrong on a few things does not bother me. No one predicated a candidate who was out of the system. No one predicted a situation of confusion and unrest. No one predicted hearts being revealed. Charlie said all these things and more such as N. Korea. Was that anyone’s radar screen a few years ago when he wrote it? Probably not. And only Charlie, as far as i know, predicted Russia would be our friend which is what Trump is trying to do. The (deep state aka the elites) are working hard to stop it. But regarding the prayer, any prayer is good prayer. Even if we make a mistake with a prayer the all loving God will see our intent. Prayers for all here.

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    • James Ignatius McAuley says:

      Jan,
      The others have replied well. I can only say “By their fruits you shall know them.” The fruits of Charlie’s work on this site has been tremendous in me and others here. The Prayer of Miraculous Trust has worked wonders for me. Thank God for it! No rotten fruit here!

      But the prophecies? All I can say is that sometimes prophets do not understand their message and are confused by it. Trying to understand prophecy is even harder. To take a line from the Church Fathers, who held that you needed scripture to interpret/understand scripture, we also need prophecy to understand prophecy. That seems strange, but then read Ezekial, one of the four major prophets . Only three people understood this – Origen, Jerome and Pseudo-Macarius – and the last two both depend on Origen. Sometimes Charlie cannot even find words to convey what he has been told. And when he attempts to articulate it, it is, as he said, “seeing through a glass darkly.

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  17. CrewDog says:

    I watched this guy before and he is mostly correct & tells it like it is … a bit roughly!!. He is addressing Europe but the message for the USA is Same-SAME! Sadly, I believe he is an atheist. He is also a little too sure about the ability of “Democracy” to take care” of the problems that face the Western World (Christendom).
    Thank God that the USA was founded by People of Faith that did not trust Government or “Democracy” and insisted upon the first 10 Amendments to The Constitution forever known as The Bill of Rights. Sadly, most nations in Democratic Europe and elsewhere have no such Bill of Rights!!! ;-(

    “A Word To The Criminal Migrant – YouTube”

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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    • Beckita says:

      Crew Dog, I love your presence and contributions here. In this comment, I believe this guy is way too rough to include the link. He surely names deeply troubling facts. However, we are at a volatile point in country and world affairs. There is a great and serious challenge for us to follow Charlie’s lead to defend the truth as well as to hearten and defend the faithful, yet it must be accomplished in a manner in which we, in our own anger over the ways we have been oppressed by the hard left, do not succumb to inflaming, inciting and returning violence for violence, hatred for hatred, and evil for evil. May God’s order be restored and His truth reign with the least amount of violence possible.

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  18. MarieUrsula says:

    Hi, Everyone ~

    Just touching base. Things have been intense in some ways here in the wilds of Oregon. I read almost everything but haven’t commented lately, as you know. Some recent highlights:

    On June 1, our beloved elder’s 102nd birthday (see especially my October 4 comment on Charlie’s Sept 1 2016 post), Dr. Quinn (yes, the real actress!) called to wish Katherine a happy birthday. It was a lovely conversation. Jane was so warm and personable, and Katherine was very with-it. Jane called during the filming of a new family movie, “War with Grandpa,” also starring Robert DiNiro et al, scheduled for release on October 20, 2017. We’ll watch for it at our nearby theater!

    On June 13, another of our beloved elders passed into Glory in her beloved summer home on the banks of the Metolius River. She would have turned 88 on June 15. B. Mary had not been able to visit for two years, but her wonderful Portland caregiver drove her here for a short visit, and some of us local caregivers (to whom B. Mary gave the name “Metolius Angels”), and one of her sons, were on hand for B. Mary’s final High Adventure. Some long-time friends were also able to visit. Her death was not expected, but it was what our pastor would describe as the “Providential time to depart this life.” I cannot possibly list here all the little miracles, but there were very many, which were a great comfort to her family.

    Now to the post at hand. I have long admired Father Spitzer and have his book, “Healing the Culture: A Commonsense Philosophy of Happiness, Freedom and the Life Issues.” Thank you for this post, Beckita.

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  19. Joe Crozier says:

    Hi Doctor Dave and Becks
    For me details are important. Prophesy is witnessing to supernaturally revealed truth. We can quite rightly trust in the source of that truth and so it follows that if the messenger is true we are trusting in God working through the prophet, God being the source, the angel being the messenger and Charlie being the prophet. If both prophesy and prophet are true they are inseparable. In that case we cannot be told to trust in God rather than the prophet. In the case of reliable prophesy they are one and the same thing. In Charlie’s case, by trusting in Charlie we were trusting in God because we believed that God, through his angel, was talking to Charlie. God may be contradicted but does not contradict Himself. He is subject to Himself, none other. He can choose to represent Himself through another. If the information from the alleged messenger is erroneous then the source is not supernatural – not from God – and the prophet is misinformed. God does not make mistakes and does not mislead. It does not make the potential prophet a bad person but, as Charlie has said himself, one who was deceived or who misunderstood. This construction rendered Charlie unreliable in retrospect. Somewhere in the path between God, Charlies’s angel, Charlie and the world the truth was lost. It was detail that in 1054 split the Church as far as East is from West through one word “filioque.” Detail is all important. But that is just how I see truth. Not one bone would be broken. There is detail. There is truth.
    I love Charlie. I feel I know him. I don’t know his angel. I may be wrong but so far……
    Finally I am not too sure about the September detail. Dave – I think Charlie said towards the end of 2017.

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    • Beckita says:

      Yes, Joecro, details are surely important. The overarching ideas which have guided me in agreeing to assume this role, which was offered to me, are (Please forgive my repetition as I know I’ve said these things before.): 1. God has worked with Charlie in ways I have never seen Him do before. And I say this with acknowledgment that for as much as I’ve been blessed to study, I certainly do not know everything about prophecy. I simply have never heard of God moving in the ways He has chosen to prepare and work with Charlie. 2. We are at a juncture in this Storm, or purification process as some call it, where there are so many details to encompass in the unfolding of God’s Plan – from fully Church-approved prophecies alone – that some wise and erudite priests, with whom I discuss these times, continue to say “Surrender all the details to God.” I embrace such wisdom. 3. With great respect for each one’s right and duty to discern for themselves, I believe God continues to use and to work with Charlie despite Charlie’s inaugural error.

      Dave, if you are naming late September as the timing of the Rescue, Charlie actually said it will occur in late 2017.

      God bless us one and all.

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      • Apologies for that September date, Beckita and all here, and thank you for the correction. I don’t know what it is, I’m usually pretty good at remembering dates, but you are totally correct – very late in 2017. I hope that I am quoting Charlie correctly here;

        “We will be visibly and miraculously rescued very late 2017. I don’t like saying that but I was ordered to say that.”

        You know, I’m 65 this year. Perhaps I should start to expect this more often?

        One thing that I want to add is that I still have the utmost respect for Charlie. Gauging from the responses, I think that the TNRS’ers understood this in my earlier comment, that I feel no animosity and I don’t think critically of Charlie in any way. I know that he’s doing his utmost to steer everyone right as the Spirit leads him.

        The Holy Spirit gave me the gift of prophecy some 30 years ago, and I know that it’s a great responsibility to deliver the messages correctly. I must say that occasionally, I have asked God to take the gift away because I felt so inadequate to the task. And no prophetic word that I’ve been given ever came close to the broad application and audience that God has given to Charlie. I pray that God continues to bless him and keep him safe.

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      • I, too, have never seen or heard any prophet speak or write like Charlie before, Beckita. I’m not close to being an expert on Catholic prophesy but have read a ton of material from different seers who’ve lived over the passed two centuries. More times than not I am puzzled and question the spiritual authenticity of a given prophet’s message. My doubt may arise because it contradicts messages from other seers or saints. Or the seer focuses excessively on temporal matters where my heart says immediately “God would not speak that way” and I reject him or her out-of-hand. (Medjugorje is a good example of one that frustrated me to no end, and it appears my frustration was partially justified with the recent mixed decision from the Vatican).

        But Charlie is like no other. He is an anomaly. The generation of such prophesy by purely corporeal means is utterly improbable. And the beauty of it all is the message is perfectly logical. (Dare I say *intellectually inescapable*?) His prophesy is most certainly is as unique as he is — I’ve never heard anything if the kind. None of us have.

        The first time I heard him and later read him, I knew without doubt that I was hearing the truth. (I’m tempted to capitalize the “t”). Moreover, despite the depth and complexity of his writings and musings, his core message is perfectly simple…yet carries profound and even mysterious spiritual meaning. THAT is how God speaks — in a way that is accessible to all and at the same time calls and draws people nearer to Him.

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        • Beckita says:

          Beautiful, Patrick.

          Reading your comment brought to mind an inspirational dimension of Charlie’s relationship with God; no matter what God asks of Him and no matter what happens to CJ: total surrender and total trust. God may allow and/or actively do what He wills in Charlie’s life, for CJ has made his ironclad commitment to God irrevocable by choice. People may doubt, misunderstand, cast aspersions and accuse – not here, but in other places for sure – yet, by God’s Grace, Charlie, immersed in prayer, presses on, focusing on the work which Our Lord and Our Lady ask of him. And as he has so often conveyed, Charlie’s mystical input is mainly given to inform his work. I think, therein lies the greatest rub in discernment. Perhaps, we try to cast CJ, the mystic and prophet, into a preconceived, more familiar role of one who is marked as God’s prophet.

          I love your closing paragraph, Patrick, for you’ve captured, at least what I perceive, the heart of purpose for Charlie going public after a lifetime of private mystical encounters: “Moreover, despite the depth and complexity of his writings and musings, his core message is perfectly simple…yet carries profound and even mysterious spiritual meaning. THAT is how God speaks — in a way that is accessible to all and at the same time calls and draws people nearer to Him.” The way I see it, in these end times, we’ve had a motherlode of messages given through various message receivers. We’ve been forewarned of coming purification if we do not amend our lives and return to God with all our hearts. As Charlie, himself, has noted in his writings, he came forth *not* to repeat such warnings, but to prepare us in how we may act with God’s Love and Light in the midst of the greatest chaos with fear-provoking days yet to come. With our training via consideration of the writings of CJ and the ensuing discussion – replete with the wisdom of the many here who have commented over time – we have been, and are becoming, equipped to CHOOSE Trust in God and TNRS when the worst is upon us, rather than being sucked into a state of paralysis. And to this end, I expect our ranks to once again flourish when TSHTF. May we BE Christ to each other via prayer and TNRS, both on and off site, as we move forward in this Storm of storms.

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          • Thank you for bringing up Charlie’s faith and devotion. It speaks volumes about his character. The most striking thing about Charlie in all this is his unwavering OBEDIENCE to the Church. That takes courage.

            Thanks for putting some perspective on this. Previous prophets have said, “Beware! Beware! A storm is coming!” Charlie says, “The Storm is here. Now this is how to best prepare for it and here is the path to take to best weather its fury.”

            Thanks, B.

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          • Beckita says:

            Yes, Patrick, obedience. So true. Thank *you* for your perspectives and contributions here.

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        • SteveBC says:

          Patrick, I think you’re onto something important. I am no expert on prophecy or prophets, but it seems to me that prophets per se are about warning people. They do have to learn to step up for that purpose, but they are not being trained to act themselves. They are charged with getting others to change their current lives and make a different choice.

          Charlie’s prophetic training has had two parts. First is training designed to teach *him* to act. Second is training specifically to *avoid* acting when such would damage others, and therefore to be trusting and obedient. If you are going to train someone to take action, your training program must include both parts, when to act and when not to.

          In this respect Charlie’s prophetic training has been to train *him* and not to get others to change their ways. Unlike other prophets, he is not really a warner. As someone trained to act, he has had to be shown the cost of acting inappropriately. He has also been given many personal qualities that fit him for acting in the world and exhorting and organizing others to act with him. His path to the Catholic Church gave him training in all aspects of Christianity and a huge appreciation for the deposit of faith the Catholic Church holds. His journalistic, talk radio and political campaign experiences have developed his inborn talents for organizing and moving others forward.

          The closest prophet-type persons I can think of from the Bible who had a similar call to action and to lead others to a new land are Abraham and Moses. I guess when you think about it, Moses had a prophetic element in his training, but he was much more a Sherpa than most other prophets. The prophetic elements of his work are far less important than his action-figure task, and his place in history rests on his accomplishments, not any warning words he may have spread around. Same for Abraham, and I find it interesting that Charlie’s Facebook page is “Abraham’s Journey.” That is not only because of its nod to Abraham but also its clear connection to moving from one place to another. We’re not talking commuting here, but a permanent one-way move through difficult times and conditions to a new place as a changed and renewed people who value their connection with God.

          Like Abraham and Moses, Charlie is a sherpa leading this community first, and through us many many others, out of slavery to the corrupted world and into a new land. To judge him as failing due to a failed prophecy is to miss the point that *all* that happens to him, even a failed prophecy, is designed to sculpt *him* first and foremost. His prophetic framework really only gives us some help as a byproduct, an afterthought effect. Nothing is wasted, but knowing what is primary and what is secondary here is a helpful way to hone our own understanding of what is going on and *why* it is going on.

          If we focus on the Journey we are on, the prophetic framework involved will slot into its rightful secondary place in our work.

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          • A spiritually astute comment, Steve. Prophecy doesn’t exist in a vacuum in a believer’s life, instead it’s all wrapped up in that person’s walk with God. I’ve always found that there’s an amazing synchronicity between the messages that the Holy Spirit has given me to speak, and my own experience.

            Often, God teaches me about a weakness in my life and how I need to rest in Him for the answer to it. Not long afterwards, or even simultaneously I will be given a prophetic message for others that is closely related to that personal discovery. Of course, God sees my walk with Him from outside Time, knowing in advance the challenges and choices that I’m about to face. The same principal applies to those for whom that message is intended.

            “Listen to me, O house of Jacob,
            all the remnant of the house of Israel,
            who have been borne by Me from before your birth,
            carried from the womb;
            even to your old age I am He,
            and to gray hairs I will carry you.
            I have made, and I will bear;
            I will carry and will save. …..

            …. Remember this and stand firm,
            recall it to mind, you transgressors,
            remember the former things of old;
            for I am God, and there is no other;
            I am God, and there is none like Me,
            declaring the end from the beginning
            and from ancient times things not yet done,
            saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
            and I will accomplish all My purpose,’
            calling a bird of prey from the east,
            the man of my counsel from a far country.
            I have spoken, and I will bring it to pass;
            I have purposed, and I will do it.”

            An edited excerpt above from Isaiah 46.

            “I am the Alpha and the Omega–the beginning and the end,” says the Lord God. “I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come–the Almighty One.” from Revelation 1.

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          • SteveBC says:

            Amen, DoctorDave. 🙂

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          • So very excellent, Steve. Your last paragraph nailed it and struck me. How many mistakes I’ve made putting a disproportionate emphasis on the prophetic warnings and less on Charlie’s instruction on how best to make the Journey! This is something he repeatedly stressed we must avoid, but personally it’s been tough getting it into my thick 2-D head. (This has surely been apparent to many of you from the postings of my endeavors.) I also never would’ve thought that Charlie’s rigorous training included learning what NOT to do. Well, he sure has the experience and skill set that make him ideal for the Sherpa work he’s been assigned.

            [An aside, gotta say this: while I know I’m no dummy, I do see myself as more of a 2-dimensional thinker. I like to compartmentalize info and simplify it so I can process it, filtering stuff into either black or white, 0 or 1. Heck, I can barely visualize two moves ahead in chess. By contrast, Steve, you and many other contributors here are 3-dimensional thinkers. (I’d hate to play chess against you – it’d be a bloodbath). I and so many others have benefitted greatly over these years from the insights, analyses, and teachings from you, Beckita, YD, and the other “heavy hitters.” (You know who you are!) And because Charlie’s had access to information that involves events over time coupled with a staggering intellect, he’s one of those rare 4-dimensional thinkers! Don’t mean to patronize anyone nor fish for compliments, I just had to express my admiration and appreciation. Nuff said.]

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          • SteveBC says:

            Ha, Patrick, you are giving me some good laughs. And yet I believe that although people are born with different thinking processes and capabilities, when one sees the existence of higher possibilities, it becomes possible to partake of them in some way. Being able to see makes one able to be, else what, for example, would saints be good for? Like you I have learned a considerable amount simply trying to see the world through the eyes of those here who are so helpful to all, including but not limited to Charlie. And yes, I have learned from you in your struggles and appreciation for what exists around you. Thank you for that. 🙂

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          • Beckita says:

            Love these insights, Steve. Thank you very much.

            Much has been said, by a multitude of commenters here, about how the inaugural error challenged them to reconsider if they were, first and foremost, following God – or Charlie. (Even as we intend to place God first, the evil one is so subtly seductive in our lives and we are famous for taking bait and veering off course. No worries, though, if we’re honest with ourselves and can acknowledge our error. With Grace, we can readjust to properly set sail again.)

            In addition to any challenge each of us may have experienced, I watched, in wonder, how Charlie integrated the error. If God had willed it, Gabriel could have easily corrected CJ, just as this blessed archangel had done countless times before. But a correction was, obviously, not.part.of.God’s.Perfect.Plan. I am amazed at the faithfulness, fortitude and fluidity with which CJ carried on with his personal next right steps in his watchful retirement.

            There is another Biblical prophet I think Charlie represents: St. John the Baptist.
            John worked tirelessly in his funky, intense and refreshing prophetic style. Leaping in his mother’s womb upon meeting his Savior, also in utero. (A theological opinion is that John was cleansed from original sin at that leaping moment. Makes me want to kick up my heels at the gift of baptism.) Grasshoppers and honey, man. Preaching fearlessly: REPENT! (So much more exciting than today’s nonsense of RESIST.) Gathering beau coup followers by proclaiming TRUTH. And as soon as our Redeemer emerged from His Hidden Life, John bowed out of this phase of his rich ministry to say JESUS is THE ONE, Behold the Lamb of God! And when it was time to defend marriage, John shifted his focus again, embracing his ministry of martyrdom for the sake of Truth Himself.

            So it has been with Charlie, I see, and so it must be with us as we go through our final preparations to traverse the most difficult parts of the Storm. We must be fluid: ready, at every moment, to do what God wants us to do. We have no idea, right now, as to what, how, why, where, which or when, but we can be firm of purpose to acknowledge God – counting on His Holy Spirit to inspire and guide us into our next right steps. Through it all, may God’s Hope beam from every NRStepper

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          • jlynnbyrd says:

            I love that Beckita! Thank you for sharing your joy and reflections in the always most inspiring way. ❤

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  20. Joe Crozier says:

    Thank you Becks for engaging with me on this conundrum. You are far more informed than me on mystery and your views are beautifully consistent. As I have said before I am no expert and usually write from the heart as much as from anywhere else. With your permission I may add to this when work is over.

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  21. Joe Crozier says:

    Today I looked again at Gabriel in Luke Chapter 1. Luke’s aim, he tells us, was to record the events of his gospel “in an orderly sequence” so as to provide “certainty” in the teaching that had previously been given. The detail that accompanies this teaching is not only clear and simple but also exquisite and intimate in its completeness.

    We are told why God chose Zecharia and Elizabeth. We are told why Elizabeth was childless. We are told why the child John was to be born. Then Gabriel turned on Zecharia because he had doubted him. Unlike Mary who meekly and reasonably asked “How shall this be?”, Zecharia expressed doubt and asked “How shall I know this?” Mary was concerned with God and life. Zechariah was concerned with self and knowledge. John’s life and death and Christ’s witness to John showed that Gabriel had spoken truth.

    In Gabriel’s presentation of God’s message to Mary once again the detail is intimate and complete. We are told exactly how Jesus will be conceived and why he will be born. And once again the truth of the Gabriel’s words is affirmed by the life, death and resurrection of Jesus and the sacred tradition of The Faith as preserved and grown by the Holy Spirit.

    There is no uncertainty or lack of clarity of meaning in this Gabriel of the gospels who unwraps the mystery of the incarnation as fully as possible. This revelation is for the whole world.
    In contrast, in Charlie’s own words, the revelations from his angel are primarily for himself. So first and foremost Charlie’s Rescue may be for himself. In the extension of revelation to include that Rescue about which he has been ordered to “tell us true” “each soul is the battle ground.” (CJ)

    In the end it is a private affair and in the midst of the fight it is revealed “whether we are God’s or the satan’s man.” (CJ) Ultimately it is between God and me and God and you. We are shown what each one of us needs to cooperate with our salvation. If what we are shown pulls the wool over our eyes or the rug from under our feet then I cannot equate that with the glorious beneficence of the Gabriel who comes to us in holy scripture who leaves us sure in foot and sure in faith, certain as faith permits in what has been and what will be.

    None of this is meant to detract from Charlie who has worked so hard to show us the truth as it has been shown to him. There is a goodness in that work that will not be taken away from him. In choosing to be with God, Charlie, like Mary, has chosen the better part. But he has also, like Martha, taken on board so much else. There is a Martha and Mary in each one of us and sometimes, even with the best of intentions, our driving sense of duty can distract from what matters more. In that distraction there is a danger that we can lose perspective and see what is not there.

    I do not envy Charlie’s viewpoint. I cannot, simply because I don’t really know what he has seen. He has chosen to keep to himself most of what he has been shown. I suspect much of it would scare me to death. I thank him for all his good work. But for now I put aside the rest and surrender my imagination to God.

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    • Beckita says:

      Beautiful, Joe.

      I do see the truth of “orderly sequence” and “certainty” which you note in the passage from Luke that you’ve shared. I also see that in many scripture passages which reveal simplicity and clarity in their teaching, there is, most often, additional depth, breadth and heighth to be explicated by the Church under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, such as the passage in John 6, wherein Jesus teaches His disciples that they must eat His flesh and drink His blood to have life within them. We know, He was challenged by the disciples and He didn’t alter the simple, clear, straightforward truth of His Presence in the Holy Eucharist. Yet God did not cease in bringing us greater insight and understanding. Our Church has traveled a long journey, over many centuries, to develop our current practices of Eucharistic adoration and our rich understandings of Eucharistic doctrine. The great Jesuit, Fr. John Hardon, writes prolifically on these topics. He says so well:

      “It is not surprising, therefore, that Vatican II should have laid down the basic principles for dogmatic development. After declaring that divine revelation, found in Sacred Scripture and Tradition, has been entrusted for safekeeping by the Church, the Council goes on to say that there is more to the Church’s role than just preserving revealed truth. Her mission is also to provide for growth in assimilating this truth. The revealed deposit ‘that comes from the apostles makes progress in the Church, with the help of the Holy Spirit.’

      There is a growth in insight into the realities and words that are passed on. This comes about in various ways. It comes through the contemplation and study of believers who ponder these things in their hearts. It comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. And it comes from the preaching of those who received, along with their rights of succession in the episcopate, the sure charism of truth. Thus, as the centuries go by, the Church is always advancing towards the plenitude of divine truth, until eventually the words of God are fulfilled in her (Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation, II, 8).”

      I think, since the development of doctrinal understandings have taken so many centuries to unfold – all in God’s Plan for us – perhaps, how much more we need to contemplate contemporary prophecy to discern where God is leading each of us and what it is He wishes each one to do in light of its place in public revelation and in light of where we are in salvation history-in-the-making.

      Love your closing thought, Joecro. I join you in that surrender of imagination, even while continuing to follow in Our Mother’s footsteps to ponder all these things in the heart. May God imbue one and all in His Peace as we carry on.

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    • I carefully read and pondered your meditation a few times, Joe, and appreciate it’s course. Wonderful line… that last line of yours.

      I’m no expert in prophecy, so often have to draw from other experiences to aid in the discernment process. For example, I’m wondering of what use imagination is to the mountain climber. Maybe folks wouldn’t mind if I thought about it out loud here. Here, because it might be the place for it… though I could just as easily stitch it at the end.

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      • Joe Crozier says:

        Thanks Michael
        I remember from the days when I tried contemplation the imagination needed to be quiet so that full attention could be given to God and so that we could benefit fully from God’s attention. There were all sorts of ways to facilitate this but in the end it was about surrender and acceptance. A parent staring into the eyes of a child and that look of love being returned is a good image of contemplation. Only pure love can truly accomodate and be freely engaged in this attention. It is work but the burden is unbelievably light and the yoke is easy. I’d better get back to that work soon!

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      • Phillip Frank says:

        MP,
        I see it like the way Sherlock Holmes, played by Robert Downy Jr, used his imagination to assess , very quickly, different scenarios before he would act.
        A mountain climber would do the same thing….very …slowly, but could still imagine the next right step.
        A plan , after all, is an imaginary course that becomes fully real only after it has been accomplished and then will probably have changed a bit during its course.
        It is said that God gave us an imagination so we could know Him more fully. He being mystery and invisible we needed such an approach as creation does not contain every aspect of God, especially His “unseen” qualities. Funny thing is, as Charlie has complained, even when He reveals Himself to us in a more direct way, our fallen “imagination” of what we have percieved can still muffs it all up.

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  22. for the sake of ... sorrowful passion says:

    I keep running into (from various sources) to dwell in the present moment.
    Not to live or dwell in the past; not to “dwell” or “live” in the future.
    God is with us in the present moment.
    http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/catholicbychoice/2011/03/in-the-face-of-the-crises-fear-is-useless-what-is-needed-is-trust.html
    Prophecies can be mitigated by prayer.

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    • Beckita says:

      Amen. Chapter five of Fr. Spitzer’s book is entitled: Fear Is Useless. In future posts, we’ll be exploring some of his specific prayer suggestions and practical strategies for overcoming fear and anxiety.

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  23. CrewDog says:

    “Pope Francis Adds ‘Fourth Path’ to Official Sainthood”
    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/07/12/pope-francis-adds-fourth-path-to-official-sainthood/
    I’m surprised that this 4th way to Sainthood was not instituted long ago.
    Being an old Military Man I can think of five Catholic Chaplains of the top of my head:

    Fr Al Schmitt of Oklahoma.
    https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/remember-pearl-harbor-the-sacrifice-of-fr-al-schmitt

    Fr John Washington of Dorchester.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._Washington

    Fr Emil Kapaun, MOH – Korea
    http://fatherkapaun.org/father-kapaun

    Fr Vincent Capodanno, MOH – Vietnam
    https://www.mca-marines.org/mcaf-blog/2011/05/16/father-vincent-capodanno-and-meaning-sacrifice

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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  24. vicardwm says:

    Thank you, Beckita! I LUUUUUUV Fr. Spitzer, and his Magis Center is a true light shining in the darkness for those who are open to truth. He is a great example of the New Evangelization – meeting people where they are at without watering down the truth.

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  25. SanSan says:

    God bless Fr Spitzer and the Magis Centre. So blessed to have many of Fr. Spitzer’s books and teachings. Watched him on EWTN for many years. Thank you for highlighting him here.

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  26. Bob says:

    The speech Donald Trump gave at Warsaw Poland is pretty impressive in my mind.
    He made references to several major historical events including the time when John Paul II spoke in Poland in 1979 and about a million people chanted “We want God” and atheistic communism ended soon after in Poland. I fear in our country our people would need to first learn “We need God” before we could say “We want God”, and how many do not know of our deep need for God yet? And he said this about primary values, and more besides, “We put faith and family, not government and bureaucracy, at the center of our lives.”
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/06/politics/trump-speech-poland-transcript/index.html
    From Crisis magazine on the speech:
    http://www.crisismagazine.com/2017/trumps-warsaw-speech

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